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Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Nimoy in Star Trek 3

Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

Malaika said:
nope to the highest level of NOPE

I like these movies for the new characters and the possibilities of this being another reality. Stid already had too much fanservice but I'm still here hoping that they get back to what made the first movie new and successful. If they won't and the third movie will be a fan service fest I hope to read the spoilers in time so that I can save myself from being too disappointed and perhaps I can decide to not watch it at all and move on.


eta: not that I believe this rumor but as a general feeling I worry that Orci and the two new writers WILL do even more fanservice and fanpandering than in stid.

Orci is human and with him being a first time director and also his history with the fans over trekmovie (that in no way are the majority of the fandom but try to explain it to some people there... ) he might try to keep it too 'safe' and do a third movie trying to appease that very vocal minority of people online, which is a terrible idea.
It doesn't make me feel better that the new writers helping him also are first timers when it comes to big franchises and they need to prove themselves so I fear that these 3 people will think way too much about what tos elitists want.
People like JJ are everything this franchise needs precisely because he will never do a movie just for the star trek fans (or at least those vocal online who want everything to be like tos and can't let go of Shatner&co)
People like him don't give a damn about what haters say. He's a successful director, he has confidence over his job now and the box office proved him right. I suspect he doesn't even bother reading what fans or haters say online.
Orci on the other hand interacts way too much with the fanboys over trekmovie and I never liked that. Granted, he interacts to defend himself and his movies for the most part but again, he's still human.. and no one likes getting criticized...
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Malakia or Majra which even name you go by is fine with me but I agree as well. I think the people on trekmovie may not be all that in tune with the fans outside the trek bubble.

I have been on other sites like slash films and ign and the fans there all are saying the same thing. the whole point of the new film was to break away and start fresh and new so why raise up the dead and so on. Nimoy and Shatner have had their time. Orci needs to let it go.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/09/23/william-shatner-and-leonard-nimoy-in-star-trek-3

http://www.slashfilm.com/william-shatner-star-trek-3/

I will not mind small camoes from them like what stan lee does in the marvel films but in no way do I want a new story line of a resurrected Shatner as Kirk and an old 129 year old spock in the new films trying to live out their glory days.
 
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Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

Smellmet said:
CaptainMurdock said:
I'd love it if Shatner came back. Him and Nimoy sharing a scene together after 25 years would probably bring tears to my eyes.
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It probably would me too but I still don't want it to happen. It's placing sentimentality over the good of the movie unless it is done extremely well. Getting those two back in the same movie smacks of Generations and a muddled mess. Let this cast drive forward and stand on their own just once. Please. Or what has been the point in this 'reboot'
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If it can echo The Doctor Who 50th's Matt Smith/Tom Baker kind of moment. The sheer magic of that meeting.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn9yJrrm2tk[/yt]

Maybe Quinto and Pine's versions of the characters are off on some mission/planet and Kirk goes to check something out. Then behind Quinto a backlit figure appears, and you hear the familiar voice, just above a whisper "...Spock." There's Shatner, and then Quinto and Shatner could have some kind of a scene. Some vital peace of information exchanged. A means to get out of the trap that Kirk and Spock have fallen into or something. Maybe some insight into Kirk that we have never heard before. An omission about who Kirk was as a young man.

After the day has been saved, we could have a similar scene to Nimoy's from the first film, where OG Kirk and Spock watch their younger selves, finally, the circle having been completed, the legendary friendship forged and cooled. :)
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

star trek XIII: a story inspired by fanfiction.net...


at this point, I almost prefer the idea of Khan coming back or the crew needing to save Kirk because he's became evil after getting his blood.
I don't even know, I might just get that desperate to see a new original story with these characters.
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

I hope this happens. I'd love to see Shatner back one more time.
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

I'm still trying to figure out who Limoy is.
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

Some people are asking Orci to use the scene that was for the 09 Movie. It could be chosen as the closing scene of ST3.
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

I don't know. Seeing them on screen again would just make me feel sad for all the time that's passed. Hard as I'd try not to, I'd see Shatner and Nimoy, not Kirk and Spock. I'm also afraid that seeing them will be just as Kirk said in TVH, "You're not exactly catching us at our best." I say they've given enough joy to fans over fifty years. It's time to let it go.
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

Franklin said:
I don't know. Seeing them on screen again would just make me feel sad for all the time that's passed. Hard as I'd try not to, I'd see Shatner and Nimoy, not Kirk and Spock. I'm also afraid that seeing them will be just as Kirk said in TVH, "You're not exactly catching us at our best." I say they've given enough joy to fans over fifty years. It's time to let it go.
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+1
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

This likely won't be a very popular thing to say, and I certainly intend no disrespect to Shatner or Nimoy, i'm just speaking from the standpoint of reality... But the flip of that coin is that this may be the last chance we get, as a fan base, to commune with the original two. Forever.

It's the 50th. It's a once in a life time moment, and Trek is one of only a few franchises to make it this far and still be relevant and viable in at least some fashion. I don't know, with all due seriousness, if this is so black and white as "yes they should" or "no they shouldn't."
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

Bob Orci went on Trekmovie and essentially said that he can "neither confirm or deny" this rumor.

If I were betting I'd say it's going to happen. What better way to celebrate the 50th Anniversary than to have ST's biggest icons back?

It would be wonderful to see these two legends reunited. Fingers crossed that this will happen.
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

I really hope we don't see any of the TOS crew again. The reason is because I really want the new cast to stand on their own. While I didn't agree with shoehorning Spock in STXI, I could acknowledge that it was something for the fans, to see Nimoy pass on the torch to this new crew so they could go onto their own adventures. It should have been left right there, but instead STID felt it had to arbitrarily include a skype call to Spock, just to have him acknowledge "oh yeah, Khan is a reeeeal baddie". To do it a third time in a row? Come on. Just let Pine and Quinto stand on their own. This series was supposed to be a reboot, not constantly looking backwards.

I can understand why there would be the impulse to include Shatner and Nimoy in this film. It's the 50th anniversary, so they want them involved somehow to be a part of the celebration. I don't think that's necessary. Say what you want about FIRST CONTACT, but at least that had the good sense to just let the TNG crew stand on their own without involving any of the TOS cast, despite the fact that the film was released on the 30th anniversary.

If Bad Robot really wants to do something to celebrate, they should make a deal with CBS to do a TV special that involves Shatner and Nimoy. Bring the franchise back to its roots by returning to the medium that made Trek. Didn't DR. WHO do some specials on TV?
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

MakeshiftPython said:
I really hope we don't see any of the TOS crew again.... Just let Pine and Quinto stand on their own. This series was supposed to be a reboot, not constantly looking backwards.
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As much as I have mixed feelings about it, I think it's more probable than not that we'll see it. To be honest, if they wanted to distance themselves from TOS, they shouldn't be planning a movie for the 50th anniversary (and/or should not have included all the homages in the previous two films).
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

2009 was a decent film, but after Into Darkness my expectations for the third one couldn't possibly be any lower. So yeah, include Shatner. Even if it's just poorly thought out fan service that does nothing to make a good story (did I mention that I didn't particularly care for Into Darkness?), it could still make for a nice moment in a film that's probably not going to have many of them regardless of who they bring in for a cameo.
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

I can understand why there would be the impulse to include Shatner and Nimoy in this film. It's the 50th anniversary, so they want them involved somehow to be a part of the celebration. I don't think that's necessary. Say what you want about FIRST CONTACT, but at least that had the good sense to just let the TNG crew stand on their own without involving any of the TOS cast, despite the fact that the film was released on the 30th anniversary.
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50th is a far bigger deal than 30th anniversary. Also back then TOS was seen as 'done' by the studio and Berman with TNG being 'star trek'

That's not the case now
 
Re: Roberto Orci want both Shatner and Limoy in Star Trek 3

No, they shouldn't, but oh, yes, yes, a thousand times yes, they should!
 
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