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Robert Beltran is married

Additionally, if there are any fans who for some reason regard themselves to have information about these matters or concerns or problems as a result please contact the CIA, MI6 or Australian Secret Intelligence Service with that information or requests. You can find their contact information on their websites.

https://www.cia.gov/
www.sis.gov.uk/
www.asis.gov.au/

I'm sorry, maybe I have missed something here, but this is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Who the hell cares what year he was born in, I certainly don't. You are suggesting we contact the CIA?? About someone messing around on wikis??

Believe me you will have my full apology if your reply convinces me that this is indeed a very serious issue.
 
Given that there are approximately 116,000 references available via search engine establishing Robert Beltran's verified date of birth as November 19, 1953 I'm afraid that the authorities will be terribly, terribly busy for quite some time to come. No one on the Internet appears to be refraining from discussing this at all. ;)
 
Given that there are approximately 116,000 references available via search engine establishing Robert Beltran's verified date of birth as November 19, 1953 I'm afraid that the authorities will be terribly, terribly busy for quite some time to come. No one on the Internet appears to be refraining from discussing this at all. ;)

That's what Memory-Alpha says.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Robert_Beltran
 
Well, they know what they're talking about.

I have no idea if they know what they are talking about but the fact is you can't tell people to stop discussing things on forums that are clearly stated on Memory-Alpha. If there was a mistake in biographical information on MA I'm assuming they would be quite responsive to being contacted by that person and corrected.
 
I am been asked (by the authorities involved) to...

I sincerely doubt this. Why would "the authorities involved" ask you to do anything? Who are you that they'd single you out as their official representative?

I am also well aware that many of the fans involved in these matters have already been asked by the authorities (including the German authorities) to cease their activities and are refusing to believe they need to do so. Hence the decision having been made to put up this post.
Right, because the anonomous postings of another fan with only the unsubstantiated claim of authority, posting on a message board, is far more convincing than official communications from the actual legal representatives of the various law enforcement communities involved.

I can assure them that these are not tactics or game playing.
And I can assure you that they are. In fact, I've been authorized by the highest of authorities to assure everyone that this is game playing.

These matters are currently before the courts and have been for some weeks. Arrests have already been made whether you have heard about them on-line or not. There is a suppression order covering aspects of this situation and the media are respecting that. As matters proceed, news of these matters will be able to be reported but for the time being that is not the case.
Arrests have been made? Pull the other one. And for what crime? Better still: Link?
 
For Katherine and other Robert Beltran fans discussing these matters,

Posting in other forums asking people to assure you that Robert was born in 1953 is not going to cause that to be true. Nor is it appropriate for fans to make demands of the actors to prove to them that lies published on the Internet are such.

Fans often don't think about the possible consequences when they make these alterations. They don't consider what ramifications their actions could have on the actor concerned and their career. It can be a dreadful process getting websites such as the IMDB and Wikipedia to change their information!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/actress-suing-imdb-reveals-name-279213

I am been asked (by the authorities involved) to let the fans know that Robert Beltran has signed an affidavit stating that he was born in 1957. The affidavit covers many other issues as well and has been signed appropriately to enable it to be legal proof in America and overseas.

As legal and court actions have already begun neither I nor anybody else will be able to comment on these matters further.

I am also well aware that many of the fans involved in these matters have already been asked by the authorities (including the German authorities) to cease their activities and are refusing to believe they need to do so. Hence the decision having been made to put up this post.

I can assure them that these are not tactics or game playing. These matters are currently before the courts and have been for some weeks. Arrests have already been made whether you have heard about them on-line or not. There is a suppression order covering aspects of this situation and the media are respecting that. As matters proceed, news of these matters will be able to be reported but for the time being that is not the case.

All parties involved trust the *Star Trek* fans to also respect such restrictions and to allow the legal process to continue uninterrupted.

It was felt making this "announcement" informally was more respectful to the fans than issuing individuals with Contempt of Court notices. It would be greatly appreciated if fans take note of these matters rather than formal processes having to be followed through with in the future.

Additionally, if there are any fans who for some reason regard themselves to have information about these matters or concerns or problems as a result please contact the CIA, MI6 or Australian Secret Intelligence Service with that information or requests. You can find their contact information on their websites.

https://www.cia.gov/
www.sis.gov.uk/
www.asis.gov.au/

Thank-you for your consideration and assistance in these matters.

Sadly this is not a prank post. Those with further information can also send written information to CBS who will pass it on to the CIA/MI6/ASIS as well.

http://www.cbs.com/

Hopefully everything will be resolved rapidly and we can all get back to enjoying *Star Trek* without these kind of issues hanging over all our heads.


Chuckling :)

I'm not worried.
 
Robert Beltran, thespian, all round man about town.

Born 1943
Died 1942

May Dog have mercy on his soul.​
 
We used to call my cousin Chuck 'Chuckles'. He was funny. Not 'Ha! Ha!' funny. It was more a wry, thinking person's kind of humor. A 'Titter, titter - Ah ha! Golf clap' kind of funny.

Come to think of it, I've never seen my cousin Chuck and Robert Beltran in the same room together. And my cousin Chuck was born in 1953!
 
We used to call my cousin Chuck 'Chuckles'. He was funny. Not 'Ha! Ha!' funny. It was more a wry, thinking person's kind of humor. A 'Titter, titter - Ah ha! Golf clap' kind of funny.

Come to think of it, I've never seen my cousin Chuck and Robert Beltran in the same room together. And my cousin Chuck was born in 1953!

Dude you've been holding out on us! Where is our inside information?!
 
Really, I've said too much. I've already been visited by the Swedish Intellisnorga this week...
 
I am been asked (by the authorities involved) to...

I sincerely doubt this. Why would "the authorities involved" ask you to do anything? Who are you that they'd single you out as their official representative?

I am also well aware that many of the fans involved in these matters have already been asked by the authorities (including the German authorities) to cease their activities and are refusing to believe they need to do so. Hence the decision having been made to put up this post.
Right, because the anonomous postings of another fan with only the unsubstantiated claim of authority, posting on a message board, is far more convincing than official communications from the actual legal representatives of the various law enforcement communities involved.

I can assure them that these are not tactics or game playing.
And I can assure you that they are. In fact, I've been authorized by the highest of authorities to assure everyone that this is game playing.

These matters are currently before the courts and have been for some weeks. Arrests have already been made whether you have heard about them on-line or not. There is a suppression order covering aspects of this situation and the media are respecting that. As matters proceed, news of these matters will be able to be reported but for the time being that is not the case.
Arrests have been made? Pull the other one. And for what crime? Better still: Link?


Wonderful to see so many still care enough about *Star Trek* to put such passion in their posts!

Allow me to put it to you this way.

If it was related to you or concerned you, you would know about it. As it obviously doesn't then you do not have to be worried.

If you are concerned or involved then contact those authorities involved as stated in the original post.

CBS and the relevant bodies know who I am and why I am being asked to explain these matters to the fans and pass on the legal information as much as we are able to.

Suffice to say that I am a Writer-Producer who works with CBS on a number of productions. As such I work behind the scenes on *Star Trek* and it is part of my responsibilities to deal with this very delicate situation and circumstances.

I am sorry the information is not available for you to consider as yet but that is all in the hands of the courts and they will decide what goes public and when.

Teacake, nobody is asking people not to have normal discussions but one of the difficulties the courts have been encountering is that the very fans who have been asked by the authorities to stop causing problems for the cast and crew, have not done so. This actually places those fans in a Contempt of Court situation and nobody wants this situation to get more serious than it already is.

Apparently the fans concerned regard all of this as a massive game and nothing anyone has said to them has been able to get across to them that it is not and they need to stop. It has entered very serious areas of concern and crossed legal boundaries.

All we can do is warn people to please be aware that legalities are ensuing and to please refrain from conducting any activities that may possibly be considered as potentially intrusive to the actors lives or careers. i.e. please no climbing over the fences of their houses to take photos of the windows or taking actions such as attempting to alter their hotel bookings at conventions by pretending to be their agents. Only two examples but hopefully you can see that it is the extreme end of behaviors we are asking everybody to refrain from.

In other words, please do not accidentally implicate yourselves while the authorities sort out the situations they are working on. The concern is that we do not want any of the genuine fans being blamed for things they have not been responsible for.

If you have not been contacted by your local authorities (wherever you are in the world) then it is not your problem and you are not involved. You do not need to be concerned.

There is no restriction on any fan activity or even criticism, merely a desire to protect the real fans from getting flack or being blamed for the extreme actions of a few who are spoiling a great many things for others.

OK?

The point is that we know what is going on in the Courts and everyone involved is keen to deal with the situation with the least difficulty or disruption for the fans and their enjoyment.

On the other hand...given that I have been asked to post here, indicates to you that CBS is busily at work behind the scenes creating something new for *Star Trek*. In particular aiming towards the 50th anniversary! But if we can get these legal issues dealt with and out of the way, maybe we can look at ways of introducing aspects of the new *Star Trek* developments sooner.

Oh BTW, I'm not here as a fan (although I am one). I'm here on the forum because I am a Writer-Producer involved with CBS and *Star Trek*. While we've been developing things I've been keeping an eye on what the fans wanted so we could make sure we created something especially suited to as many of you as possible.

Hence why we've been testing lots of things to see how you liked them and how they performed in marketing terms. i.e. Beta versions. BTW, I never did find out what you all thought of the perfumes?

I've also been getting around to conventions whenever I have been able to and in fact saw Teacake in Melbourne Australia when she went to see Kate Mulgrew and Tim Russ. :techman:

Sat just down the row from her actually. :bolian:

We've been working on these new plans since 2000 so we're pretty sure what we've got is exactly what the fans have been looking for. We really want to get this right!

And both past and present *Star Trek* cast and crew and personnel have all been sworn to secrecy which is why they have all been very good at not even giving out hints! I am very proud of them all for the way they have kept their mouths shut even though they've had to endure endless messages from me over a very long time! :guffaw: They are a very kind and patient bunch I can assure you!

We'll all get through this! It's merely one of those glitches every mature franchise has to go through as they head for 50 years of success!

Or would you prefer I announced all of this and revealed it at another forum and to another group of fans? ;)

We've been waiting for an opportune moment and this seems as good as any!


Chuckling :lol:
 
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