Riddick 3 begins scouting locations

[Trubinator]

I love Riddick, but I dunno if it's necessary for another sequel. We already have Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick and Escape from Butcher Bay. Well, and Dark Fury. I guess I'm just worried we'll see Riddick 15 a few years from now if it does well...

 

[Deckerd]

Does the novel explain my last question, why there apparently is no multi-system defense force (i.e. a counterpart of Starfleet) that Helion Prime could have called upon? Or did the Necromongers just attack too quickly for such a force to be able to respond?

If you take the age of Kira (Jack) as the yardstick to measure what's going on, then the Necros must have arrived pretty suddenly on the scene. The films don't tell you where all the action is set but it must be somewhere where the planets are all closer together than here

 

[bigdaddy]

I love Riddick, but I dunno if it's necessary for another sequel. We already have Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick and Escape from Butcher Bay. Well, and Dark Fury. I guess I'm just worried we'll see Riddick 15 a few years from now if it does well...

But some of us never played the video game so the movie is welcomes. Frankly I think they should redo the game into a CGI DVD movie, it would be cheaper with the voice acting already done.

 

[Marie1]

I think this movie was enevitable, kinda, given the end of CoR... no real interest in seeing it, got carried off to CoR, so then I decided to watch PB... not my thing.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Does the novel explain my last question, why there apparently is no multi-system defense force (i.e. a counterpart of Starfleet) that Helion Prime could have called upon? Or did the Necromongers just attack too quickly for such a force to be able to respond?

If you take the age of Kira (Jack) as the yardstick to measure what's going on, then the Necros must have arrived pretty suddenly on the scene. The films don't tell you where all the action is set but it must be somewhere where the planets are all closer together than here

Still, the Necros have presumably been around for a fair amount of time. If there was any kind of organized 'starfleet', surely we would have heard about it. Wouldn't we? (Unless there was heavy fighting going on between the Necros and that defense force, just not in the plot of this particular film.)

 

[Admiral_Young]

No the novel doesn't really touch on a Necromonger Fleet or anything like that...which is interesting, you'd think such a large and space faring Empire would have their fleet near their throne world.

 

[Deckerd]

I don't think there's any evidence of an allied defence force. Each planet has its own defence but if New Mecca is anything to go by they don't have the firepower or numbers to fend off the Necros. There's a big chunk of backstory about how they got so big and powerful but I don't expect the new film to address this so I'm not getting my hopes up. Since the production team have just come back from NZ I'm expecting lots of mountains, possibly with burning beacons on top of them

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

No the novel doesn't really touch on a Necromonger Fleet or anything like that...which is interesting, you'd think such a large and space faring Empire would have their fleet near their throne world.

I didn't mean them, I always thought the Necromongers *did* have a fleet. I mean, they have to get from system to system somehow, don't they? I was wondering if there was any kind of multi-system government, like a 'Federation', who could raise a fleet *against* the Necros.

 

[Trent Roman]

^ I don't think so. The man who stood up to the Necromungers on Helios made it sound like they had their own government and culture distinct from other worlds. Plus, notice that the movie never actually shows space battles--the assault on Helios is atmospheric, as is the rest of the action involving spacecraft. Battles in outer space are fairly impractical affairs, from a real-world perspective; most franchises ignore or work around that, but possibly this is one universe where space battles don't occur.

I'd be curious to see a third film. While I think I appreciated Chronicles of Riddick more for the film it was trying to be rather than the film that it actually was, the ending was unexpected, in a good way, and I'd like to see the story concluded.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

visually it reminds me of Dune.

Agreed. Part of the reason why I think I enjoyed The Chronicles of Riddick so much more the 2nd time around was because, the 1st time I saw it, I hadn't yet seen David Lynch's Dune. I'm not sure exactly what it is but there is something about Dune where, if you watch it, you suddenly get a whole new appreciation for what The Chronicles of Riddick was trying to do (even if that has almost nothing to do with Pitch Black).

 

[JacksonArcher]

Isn't it suppose to be called Riddick 2? I remember hearing that Pitch Black was suppose to be The Hobbit of the franchise, and The Chronicles of Riddick was suppose to be the first installment of a brand-new trilogy. So technically, apparently, the second film would be The Chronicles of Riddick 2: Subtitle.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

^And yet the box art for the DVD releases since 2004 have called it The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black. Plus, the somewhat cold reception received by The Chronicles of Riddick may have severely altered Twohy's trilogy plans.

Personally, the title I'm hoping for is The Chronicles of Riddick: 'Till Underverse Comes.

 

[Deckerd]

Diesel's talking about a Fall 2010 release but I think that's a fantasy myself. Even if it gets the go-ahead, the special effects will take a blue age once principal filming is finished.

 

[Base_Delta_Zero]

I don't get why every movie in a series has to follow the same rulebook. Pitch Black had Riddick versus alien monsters with a handful of survivors ... so every other movie involving Riddick has to follow those ABCs? Why? I already saw Pitch Black, I don't need Pitch Black 6: The Monsters Are Afraid of the Dark This Time.

Every Predator movie doesn't need Dutch. Every Alien movie doesn't need Ripley. And vice versa.

So Riddick has become embroiled in a Conan-esque space-war/throne ascension saga? Escape From Butcher Bay was solely about Riddick breaking out of an escape-proof prison. Dark Fury is Riddick taking down a spaceship full of mercs. Dark Athena is, admittedly, essentially the same thing drawn out much longer with a threat to undefended colony systems from the rogue mercs going on an enslavement rampage thrown in, but the point is while elements remain the same (his skill-set), the type of threat Riddick faces shifts story-to-story, and the universe broadens because of it.

Riddick ended the last movie in charge of a vast armada. That's already completely different from any of the other storylines. Unless he dumps the Necros in the first scene of the next movie and runs off alone to knife people in the Underverse, I wouldn't expect a rehash of the other material.

 

[Harvey]

Every Alien movie doesn't need Ripley. And vice versa.

Well, to be fair, the last two Alien movies made a compelling argument that every Alien movie does need Ripley.

But I still agree with your point.

 

[Aragorn]

Isn't it suppose to be called Riddick 2? I remember hearing that Pitch Black was suppose to be The Hobbit of the franchise, and The Chronicles of Riddick was suppose to be the first installment of a brand-new trilogy. So technically, apparently, the second film would be The Chronicles of Riddick 2: Subtitle.

The Chronicles of Riddick: Subtitle is too long. Why not something simple like Riddick's War?

 

[Kegg]

Every Predator movie doesn't need Dutch. Every Alien movie doesn't need Ripley. And vice versa.

What makes it a Pitch Black movie, then? This is the age-old argument of universe versus property; Star Trek can live without Kirk and Spock, true, but people like seeing Kirk and Spock.

The Riddick franchise is basically Vin Diesel plus outer space (he also has a franchise that is him plus cars, and him if he was Bond). That's the extent of its involved universe. Pitch Black was not a tremendously original film; if you wanted to make a sequel to it not featuring Vin Diesel the question could be fairly raised why it's considered a sequel at all - just make another generic sci-fi film with a different cast.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

The Chronicles of Riddick: Subtitle is too long. Why not something simple like Riddick's War?

Riddick's War. I like it!

I don't get why every movie in a series has to follow the same rulebook. Pitch Black had Riddick versus alien monsters with a handful of survivors ... so every other movie involving Riddick has to follow those ABCs? Why? I already saw Pitch Black, I don't need Pitch Black 6: The Monsters Are Afraid of the Dark This Time.

Every Predator movie doesn't need Dutch. Every Alien movie doesn't need Ripley. And vice versa.

It's not so much that the plot needs to follow the same rulebook. Rather, it simply helps when the fictional universe follows the same rules. Pitch Black takes place in a fairly simple, recognizable, oft-repeated, tech-based space-faring future, practically the exact same universe we saw in other movies like Alien & Supernova. The Chronicles of Riddick suddenly adds all these new fantasy elements that weren't even hinted at in Pitch Black. It's the equivalent of doing a sequel to The Maltese Falcon where we discover that it's a crossover with Tolkien's Middle Earth and that Sam Spade is a long-lost elf prince.

Now, the Alien movies are a different example. Each of the movies is very different yet the universe always has the same basic tone and follows the same basic rules. Alien is a creepy horror film. Aliens is the Vietnam War in space. Alien 3 is an exercise in nihilism. Etc.

 

[Trent Roman]

The Chronicles of Riddick suddenly adds all these new fantasy elements that weren't even hinted at in Pitch Black.

I call it 'the reverse Highlander'.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

^How is it a "reverse Highlander"? If anything, it's almost exactly the same pattern that sank Highlander II. Although, it's a little different. Although the fantasy elements weren't even hinted at in Pitch Black, there was nothing in that movie to preclude them either. OTOH, it's nearly impossible to reconcile Connor MacLeod's origins in Highlander II with what we know of his backstory from the 1st movie. Connor looks to be about in his 20s here. He says he's known Cousin Dougal for 20 years. Yet, in Highlander II, he was already an adult when he was banished from Zeist/the distant past. Also, how can Ramirez be an Egyptian if he's from Zeist? (The Director's Cut reconciles some of the problems with Ramirez's backstory but it still doesn't work for Connor.)