Let me get this straight: you think the biases of race and sex that used to prevail are better than the diversity we have now because the biased casting was deep and meaningful?
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Rememeber when there were only 3 SW movies, and 2 Terminator movies, and 2 Alien/s movies, and 2 Ghostbuster movies, and life was good. lol
Life is still good.
For some folks, white male is the default for any story, unless a vagina is needed for the hero. Then that vagina should also be white. Anything else reeks of an agenda and cannot be tolerated.
John Wayne as Genghis Khan was deep and meaningful as hell, pilgrim.
For years, people whined that there was no new Star Wars. We got the prequels. They whined harder. We got the sequels. They whined even harder.
Look, not everyone is going to get what they want in these things. Let's be honest, we all are pretty big fanboys in some form or another. We all have our expectations of what these prequels or sequels were going to look like. But, those expectations are so ridiculously high that its impossible to match. We can choose to watch and enjoy them or not. But this disturbing trend of literally finding ANYTHING to complain about a fictional series is a little disturbing. There are parties who are finding the most minute details and making YouTube videos about how it has totally destroyed Star Wars for all.
No. It hasn't.
It may have lessened their enjoyment of it and others might agree with that. And there are ways to discuss the disdain that don't come off as being nothing more than petty. But some of this has just gone too far. Its been two years since The Last Jedi. Love it. Hate it. I don't care. But don't let your dislike of something ruin other people's. I am not a fan of a lot of things. But I don't go into the thread for The Walking Dead to yell and scream about how terrible I think the show has gotten. It has its fans and I respect their enjoyment of it. But its not worth my time to try to ruin it for those people. I think most people with any amount of common sense and grace would agree with that.
Look, not everyone is going to get what they want in these things. Let's be honest, we all are pretty big fanboys in some form or another. We all have our expectations of what these prequels or sequels were going to look like. But, those expectations are so ridiculously high that its impossible to match. We can choose to watch and enjoy them or not. But this disturbing trend of literally finding ANYTHING to complain about a fictional series is a little disturbing. There are parties who are finding the most minute details and making YouTube videos about how it has totally destroyed Star Wars for all.
No. It hasn't.
It may have lessened their enjoyment of it and others might agree with that. And there are ways to discuss the disdain that don't come off as being nothing more than petty. But some of this has just gone too far. Its been two years since The Last Jedi. Love it. Hate it. I don't care. But don't let your dislike of something ruin other people's. I am not a fan of a lot of things. But I don't go into the thread for The Walking Dead to yell and scream about how terrible I think the show has gotten. It has its fans and I respect their enjoyment of it. But its not worth my time to try to ruin it for those people. I think most people with any amount of common sense and grace would agree with that.
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Psst, "as actually presented onscreen" is superfluous. You can decide the truth or falsity of the sentence with the boldfaced text entirely stricken. By the way, that part means the opposite of what it says. It doesn't mean "as actually presented onscreen" it means "as I see it to be."
Correcting inaccurate statements is not "trying to start an argument"; it is simply correcting inaccurate statements.
And "The Last Jedi ignored The Force Awakens" is not an accurate statement.
People can dismiss on-the-record statements - many of which came completely unsolicited - as "promoting their product in a positive light", but I have personal experience with regards to how Lucasfilm employees choose to interact with the fandom when it comes to the distribution of information that is pertinent to stories that are ongoing, and so I put great weight in how, when, and why said employees choose to address certain things because I know from first-hand experience that, if something is actually pertinent to an ongoing story, said thing will not be addressed at all.
This is a patently false statement.
If I'm going to state an opinion, I'm not going to hide it behind 'flowery wordplay'; you will know exactly how I feel because I will state my opinion in definitive terms.
Anyway, this bickering is pointless, so I'm going to simply move along.
Thank you, guy who brought up the pointless tangent.
Holy hell, you're playing that card? I suppose "diversity of thought" means we're supposed to tolerate your "right" to bigotry? Yeah, no. Not playing that game.
Hardly, I see lots of people dislike Disco without being homophobic at all. Now someone who spends a disturbingly large percentage of their posts claiming to hate Stamets and/or Culber, than yeah, they probably are a homophobe.
Earth, Hitler, 1938.
I just heard about this one for the first time a couple years ago, and I still can't wrap my brain around it. This is pretty much my #1 piece of what the fuck were they thinking casting.John Wayne as Genghis Khan was deep and meaningful as hell, pilgrim.
They did some crazy shit back then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(1956_film)#Production_and_cancer_controversy
Thing is if you look at rogue one it had the most diverse cast of all.
None of the main heroes where white men. It was lead by a woman and a Hispanic man along with actors of Arabic and Chinese descents. You also had Forrest Whitaker.
The only white men where the bad guys, back ground charsctors or Galen Erso.
Yet I see very few complaints about diversity in those films.
The last Jedi however lost of complaints.
So what is the difference between both of those movies?
Why does one get slated for diversity when the other with more diversity gets a free pass?
The answer to be us shit writing. TLJ is so god awful people are making things up now to bash it. Diversity wasnt a problem. But people are just saying it was to rag in it even more. And I get the hate. But you dint have to make reasons up to hate it as there are plenty of good reasons like disjointed story, bad pace, crap dialogue, preachy soap box speeches, out of place humour, killing off characters in disrespectful ways (ackbar), turning luke into a loser, plots that went nowhere and the borderline racist writing of Finn IE turning a really intresting character into a bumbling black stereotype for comic relief like its 1990.
They all die before the film is over. Every last one of them.
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