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Revisiting ST-TNG...

Yesterday I was curious and started re-reading this thread. I'm presently finished reading to the end of page 25 and wrapping up Season 4.

It makes for interesting reading. In some respects it's weird reading something you know you wrote and yet it could almost be like reading someone else's words. :lol:
 
Yesterday I was curious and started re-reading this thread. I'm presently finished reading to the end of page 25 and wrapping up Season 4.

It makes for interesting reading. In some respects it's weird reading something you know you wrote and yet it could almost be like reading someone else's words. :lol:
Same sentiment. This weekend I reread this entire thread and came away with same feeling. I know I wrote these posts, but it's almost like reading someone else's words. Weird.

Even so it was interesting. Since then last year I purchased the first two seasons of TNG-R and will be picking up Season 3 and 4 eventually. I'm presently between jobs so I'm watching my spending.
 
It's funny, I just thought of this thread recently because I could never manage the consistent time necessary to do a complete STNG-R rewatch. They basically speak for themselves anyway.

RAMA
 
I have different feelings for TNG-R than TOS-R. TNG-R comes off much better in execution because for the most part it looks like how it always should have looked: clean and vivid as opposed to faded and muddy.

I know they made some changes but mostly it's enhancing what was originally there. Along with remastering the live-action footage it looks like a seamless transition from f/x sequences to live-action and back. In some cases it really makes the episodes come alive more. And overall the whole show looks better without violating anything of the original.
 
It also doesn't hurt that when TNG-R does use CGI – even to the extent of totally altering some original element – it's much better implemented than in TOS-R. There's actual decent lighting/shading and compositing work on the CGI ships, as opposed to...whatever it was they did to the original series. :ack:
 
I know. I found myself thinking, "Holy shit, that looks nice!" To my eye anyway it all looks seamless, something I simply cannot say about TOS-R.

A distinction is they had the original TNG materiel to work from. They didn't have that for TOS-R so they redid everything without any real constraint.

It's amusing that a fan production can understand how to upgrade TOS' f/x without losing its distinctive aesthetic. I find it a joy to see Doug Drexler's Enterprise on the screen. And my jaw dropped to the floor seeing how they recreated the TOS hangar deck. Simply gorgeous!
 
It's funny, I just thought of this thread recently because I could never manage the consistent time necessary to do a complete STNG-R rewatch. They basically speak for themselves anyway.

RAMA
TNG-R isn't drastically different than TNG. It looks cleaner and more vivid, but not drastically changed. So it would still come done to the stories themselves.
 
It's funny, I just thought of this thread recently because I could never manage the consistent time necessary to do a complete STNG-R rewatch. They basically speak for themselves anyway.

RAMA
TNG-R isn't drastically different than TNG. It looks cleaner and more vivid, but not drastically changed. So it would still come done to the stories themselves.

Well what I meant was I planned on doing my own re-watch in the first place, but I had confidence there would be an STNG-R at the time, so I was going to wait to do my own...and I was right.

I do find the overall experience more pleasing, only in a few cases do they change the episode for me..in one case: "Measure of a Man" which I saw on the big screen, leaped into my top 10 STNG episodes.

RAMA
 
"Too Short A Season" **

A Starfleet Admiral takes a rejuvenating drug to face an old enemy.

This could have been a somewhat interesting tale, but I was constantly distracted by Admiral Jameson's thoroughly bad makeup and equally bad performance. Maybe if he hadn't been so focal to the story...maybe. :rolleyes:

I've heard a rumor that this episode was intended to possibly feature William Shatner returning as an aged Kirk, trying to regain his youth to deal with a mess of a situation from his past (specifically, Tyree and A Private Little War) and would have allowed Kirk to regain his (real life at the time) age in the 24th century, but that the producers felt it was too soon to be relying on TOS and wanted to stand on its own feet. I think it could have been phenomenally done with Shatner.... comments? :)
 
I've heard a rumor that this episode was intended to possibly feature William Shatner returning as an aged Kirk, trying to regain his youth to deal with a mess of a situation from his past (specifically, Tyree and A Private Little War) and would have allowed Kirk to regain his (real life at the time) age in the 24th century, but that the producers felt it was too soon to be relying on TOS and wanted to stand on its own feet. I think it could have been phenomenally done with Shatner.... comments? :)

I agree, and then he wouldn't have hopefully that ridiculous story in Generations.
 
The crew of the ISS Enterprise, NCC-1701/C

JEAN LUC PICARD - The illustrious commander of the Terran Imperial Starfleet's last great Galaxy-Class Dreadnought. Where our Picard is warm and gentle, this one is cold and hard, where ours would quotes Shakespeare, this one quotes Machiavelli.

Maybe his uniform could have some nifty Napoleonic accoutrements. It would go smashingly with one of those gold sashes.

COMMANDER SHELBY - Just as ambitious as the regular Shelby. This one decided to upstage Riker with a knife, instead of with her service to the ship and crew.

LORE - Operations officer. Because it's the mirror universe. Having Data wouldn't be as cool.

TASHA YAR - Less dead. Way way more extreme and violent. Generally regarded to be the captain's personally groomed killing machine.

GENERAL WORF - Picard's archnemesis, leading a pack of Alliance ships. Wheras our Worf is a centered being with a sense of duty and honor, this Worf is narrow-minded and ill-tempered. His ruthlessness and vision would prove integral to his ascension to Regent.

DEANNA TROI - Political officer. Obviously. With all the backstabbers and greedy self-serving crewmembers, somebody's gotta keep them in line. Who better than a telepath (she's been artificially augmented with implants and training to pick up more than the usual empathy stuff).

BEVERLY CRUSHER - Gettin' horizantal with the captain after-hours. ;)

GEORDI LA FORGE - Abandoned by his parents when they learned he was blind. Not living a good life, and definitley not on the Enterprise.

REGINALD BARCLAY - The Enterprise's neurotic, dangerously paranoid chief engineer.

JANE SMITH (RO LAREN) - A Bajoran infiltrator disguised as a Terran officer, inserted by the Alliance. As the Enterprise's navigator, she has access to some veeeery interesting stuff.

My God, this sounds so much more fun then anything TNG ever did. Not sure if the writers had it in them to go there, and I can't even imagine the actors doing it - but that is what makes the idea so fascinating AND makes the crazy point that the writing was so against taking chances, that I can't actually picture (solid) actors playing these gray area parts (when I am sure they would do just fine with it.)
 
I've heard a rumor that this episode was intended to possibly feature William Shatner returning as an aged Kirk, trying to regain his youth to deal with a mess of a situation from his past (specifically, Tyree and A Private Little War) and would have allowed Kirk to regain his (real life at the time) age in the 24th century, but that the producers felt it was too soon to be relying on TOS and wanted to stand on its own feet. I think it could have been phenomenally done with Shatner.... comments? :)
"Too Short A Season" is one of my personal favourites, just the way it is. I wouldn't want to see William Shatner involved, especially in a story like that. It wouldn't have worked! Shatner's demands and involvement in the story would've ruined the idea. I'm so glad that Shatner never guest starred on the TV series.

TNG had the Late, Great, Leonard Nimoy and completely screwed it up. "Unification" Part II sucks sweaty donkey balls. The sets are crap, the costumes are cheap, the makeups look like shit ... and worse than any of this, it was simply not compelling and - surprisingly - poorly written. Jeri Taylor should've written all of it, then it might've held up better, considering Part I wasn't too atrocious. But, no ... egos got in the way, people are pulling rank and we get this rush-job script that epitomises bad television. Oh! But NIMOY is on the set! Oh! Ah! So, I guess TNG's finally "legitimate," now? Please ... so, having someone of Shatner's caliber on the show wasn't going to fare any better. Especially, as hammy as his acting is.
 
I'm a bit confused.... I was linked to this thread directly from a post in a current thread, and happily read through the entire thing... and am responding and conversating about it. All seemed fine. This very thread led me to the TOS/TAS rewatch thread - but responding to it in the exact same way has gotten me reprimanded AND gotten the thread locked. Why does it matter if it has been a "dead" thread for 2.5 years? It is all extremely interesting and well written stuff that I absolutely want to comment and conversate about. a 50 page thread of valid opinions is no longer usable or able to be commented on just because it is old? That is pretty damn ridiculous if you ask me. It would be better to start new threads about pointless little minutiae? But its okay to keep on posting in this identical TNG review thread......

smh.
 
I'm a bit confused.... I was linked to this thread directly from a post in a current thread, and happily read through the entire thing... and am responding and conversating about it. All seemed fine. This very thread led me to the TOS/TAS rewatch thread - but responding to it in the exact same way has gotten me reprimanded AND gotten the thread locked. Why does it matter if it has been a "dead" thread for 2.5 years? It is all extremely interesting and well written stuff that I absolutely want to comment and conversate about. a 50 page thread of valid opinions is no longer usable or able to be commented on just because it is old? That is pretty damn ridiculous if you ask me. It would be better to start new threads about pointless little minutiae? But its okay to keep on posting in this identical TNG review thread......

smh.
You could start a new thread including a link to my old one citing it as the source for your new discussion.
 
I just revisited this thread and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks Warped9! So I bought TNG Seasons 1,2,3,5,and 6 on blu ray and having revisited the episodes produced in those years, I find the show has aged quite well and the look and feel of the show in the first 3 seasons is excellent. Watching some of the episodes in HD was like watching them again for the first time. I could appreciate the cinematography and direction in "Yesterday's Enterprise" much more.
 
I'm a bit confused.... I was linked to this thread directly from a post in a current thread, and happily read through the entire thing... and am responding and conversating about it. All seemed fine. This very thread led me to the TOS/TAS rewatch thread - but responding to it in the exact same way has gotten me reprimanded AND gotten the thread locked. Why does it matter if it has been a "dead" thread for 2.5 years? It is all extremely interesting and well written stuff that I absolutely want to comment and conversate about. a 50 page thread of valid opinions is no longer usable or able to be commented on just because it is old? That is pretty damn ridiculous if you ask me. It would be better to start new threads about pointless little minutiae? But its okay to keep on posting in this identical TNG review thread......

smh.
Phoenix219, you raise a valid issue, a real conundrum for we moderators. There are no rigid rules that we can follow and each person's logic may differ. If someone replies to an old (and how old is old?) thread with a one word remark or an emoji, it will certainly not be received well. If, as in the case of this thread, genuine discussion is generated, my feeling is to let it have a new life. From forum to forum, your mileage may vary.
 
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