Review Star Trek: Of Gods and Men Part 1.
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You and J. Allen didn't say WHY you thought so, just that you did. Rather than being cute, why not justify your own thoughts. Introspection and writing it down is an important part of growth.
Nonsense. I change my opinions all the time. I don't care about my own opinions either, because they aren't important. One needs enough humility to change them. You need to discuss and reevaluate your opinions and be willing to throw them out.
When I was a kid I hated salad, but now I like it. I liked a lot of movies as a kid that I hate now. And vice versa. One's opinion of a television show is not a conviction and does not need to be firm! If one's opinion of such a trivial matter is firm, then they must have a big ego!
If you are unwilling to discuss why you formed that opinion, then don't even state it. There is no reason than just to pat yourself on the back by associating with like-minded people.
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I don't think we're on the same page. I offered an opinion in response to yours. To cite the posts:
You have taken that and tried to create some kind of schism simply because my own opinion doesn't meet your requirements. All you had to do was ask why I feel as I do about the various series'. Instead, you launched into a diatribe about how I was wrong. I suggest that you dial it back and take a more relaxed and conversational approach, lest you get off on the wrong foot with a lot of good people who simply want to talk about Trek.
Did you want my opinion? Or did you simply want me to defend my position? If the former, I'll give it. If the latter, I will justify my reasons when I am ready. Until then, no goading will get it from me, particularly out of place criticisms that do nothing to help your own viewpoint. As for admonishments about being open to change, I recommend you get to know me first before presuming such calls on my character.
I recommend strongly that we move forward to the topic at hand, rather than sidetrack onto this issue.
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Excuse me, but YOU responded to MY statement. If you were talking to someone, said you disagreed, then nothing more, what would they think?!? That you're a loony. It is rude to interject yourself without explaining yourself.
I explained myself. You did not and you refuse to do so. I don't think you thought out your opinion if you continue to refuse to do so.
I explained myself. You did not and you refuse to do so. I don't think you thought out your opinion if you continue to refuse to do so.
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This particular discussion is at an end.
I agree. It would make it easier for everyone involved. I understand maintaining licenses and copyrights, but if they could find a flexible agreement where fans can create a tiny corner of their own universe (while still giving all credit to CBS/Paramount), it would let the fan film domain flourish.
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I'm sure that if this is actually a problem, one of the moderators will indicate that.
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At this point my primary concern is whether or not the argument actually leads to the point where I have to hand out warnings.
Provided Jimmy_C and J. Allen are talking about their opinions and facts about the subject at hand, it's not off-topic. For now, I trust the two of them to resolve -- as opposed to escalate -- their problems for themselves without either Mallory or I having to step in.
Provided Jimmy_C and J. Allen are talking about their opinions and facts about the subject at hand, it's not off-topic. For now, I trust the two of them to resolve -- as opposed to escalate -- their problems for themselves without either Mallory or I having to step in.
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No worries, Lord Garth. As I said in my previous post, I'm finished with that particular line of discussion.
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I just got around to seeing it. I thought it was fun. I loved seeing the familiar Trek faces! The actor who played Stonn aged into a fantastic looking older Vulcan. It's a shame he didn't get to be used as a Vulcan in any of the more recent Trek shows. Sadly, I thought the use of the Guardian of Forever and the evil Mirror universe has been tired and overdone, especially for fan productions. Still, I'm curious enough to see where the rest of the story goes, and I hope the plot will come together better in part 2 (and 3?).
I am wondering about this though. Being on the Guardian planet should have shielded them from the time change like it did Kirk and company on the City episode. I wonder if the Uhura we saw on Vulcan and the Chekov we saw captured are simply the Chekov and Uhura that exist in that altered timeline. Maybe in part 2 we'll see the Chekov and Uhura from the original timeline still on the Guardian planet. It would be interesting to see their reactions to the changed universe. Uhura has been over to the Mirror universe and would likely recognize many of the elements but it'd be a complete surprise to Chekov. I'm not sure why they'd leave Guardian though. If I were them I'd try to follow Charlie soon as possible.
I am wondering about this though. Being on the Guardian planet should have shielded them from the time change like it did Kirk and company on the City episode. I wonder if the Uhura we saw on Vulcan and the Chekov we saw captured are simply the Chekov and Uhura that exist in that altered timeline. Maybe in part 2 we'll see the Chekov and Uhura from the original timeline still on the Guardian planet. It would be interesting to see their reactions to the changed universe. Uhura has been over to the Mirror universe and would likely recognize many of the elements but it'd be a complete surprise to Chekov. I'm not sure why they'd leave Guardian though. If I were them I'd try to follow Charlie soon as possible.
I don't think that was meant to be "The Mirror Universe", but simply another alternate reality minus Kirk.
Sharr
Quite simply i think it felt like original series Star Trek more than any of the last few official productions.
Agreed.
I just watched Part I and enjoyed it, to a certain extent. I loved seeing the familiar Star Trek actors again, especially Cirroc Lofton was a real treat. I didn't even recognize him at first. He seems to have put on a little extra weight, and the beard suits him just fine.
The actor who played old Charlie was pretty bad though.Now, I found the script to be severely lacking, as well as the pacing and the editing. The CGI was decent, some of the modelling was kind of nice considering the time restraints and budget limit. However, OGAM has more 'fanfilm' look than I expected. In all earnesty I was expecting something a little more professional-looking. Though the story doesn't really interest me at this point, I shall be watching Parts 2 and 3 when they are available, primarily to see more of the actors.
Right, it probably wasn't meant to be THE Mirror Universe, but it looks awfully close to it, and I think whole Evil Universe thing has pretty much been done to death in Trek. I'd love to see have seen these actors and talent utilized in some other plot, but I'm going to keep an open mind and hope it'll improve in part 2. I did enjoy it over all.
I still haven't been able to watch it, it keeps locking up no matter what I do. Will it ever be avalible to download?
I've never watched any fan films before, but I must admit that this project piqued my interested when I first heard about it over a year ago, and despite the delays, I remained interested. I finally watched Part One today and I must say I was pretty impressed (considering it's a fan film). Some of the dialogue was a bit cringe worthy (particularly in the Enterprise-M bridge scene), but otherwise the production was very good. The acting was mostly great, particularly Walter Koening and Alan Ruck, and the CGI was well down considering the budget. I look forward to seeing the next two parts.
I know this has been asked before in this thread, but I haven't seen an answer yet: How come Robert Walker Jr. didn't reprise his role as Charlie X?
I know this has been asked before in this thread, but I haven't seen an answer yet: How come Robert Walker Jr. didn't reprise his role as Charlie X?
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