Review "Forged in Fire" No Spoilers

[trampledamage]

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Just highlight all of your text and then use the spoiler button. Then you just write Forged in Fire in the box that pops up and then it should work. (it worked for me with your text when I tried.)

See:

Spoiler: JD's Forged in Fire review

Heavy spoilers

Well, after three months of reading I'm finally mostly done with FiF, I have 30 pages left, so I think I've read enough to judge it's quality, and it was an enjoyable read. First off the good, which I would say is definitely the characters, their interactions, and the development that they were given. The one thing that I think really stand out would have to be Qagh, the Albino, in the course of this book he went from a nameless one time villain, to a very memorable character. I thought that he had an interesting backstory, and I enjoyed the way that it tied into the Klingon forehead issues."]and I enjoyed the way that it tied into the Klingon forhead issues. I thought that it was actually done in a believable manner that really worked well with what we know about the Klingons and did a good job of explaining and resolving said issues. I also thought that the whole thing with him being sick was a good motivation, and it was almost enought to make you feel sorry for him. The whole thing with him being sick was a really good motivation for the character, and it was almost enought to make you feel a little sorry for him, almost but not quite. As for the characterisations of the other characters, I thought that they were just as good, especially Curzon Dax, who is on his way to becoming another one of my favorite cross-series characters. I've always wondered how he managed to become so close with the Klingons, and overall I thought this book did a really good job of showing us a believable begging to that relationship. The book also did a good job of showing us how it was that Sulu became Captain of the Excelsior, and I have to say that I was not expecting it to be tied Blood Oath story, so that was another great suprise (well it wasn't a suprise when I was reading the book, but it was a suprise when I learned about the book's story several months ago). I also liked the way that the Klingon Trio was portrayed in this book, I can't really come up with any specific elements that stood out, it was just well done overall. Although, I did like the twist with one of the Captains. Oh, and I'm also pretty happy with the way that it My only real issue I had with the book was that I didn't think that Qagh's plots were really anything to impressive, just a general revenge plot, but luckily everything thing else about the book was able to cancel that out.
Overall I would give it an 8/10.

It's a bizarre approach - it's the same with the web page links - if you want to rename the link to be something meaningful, you have to write what you want and then highlight it and click the button and then put in the URL.

Who ever thought of this as a process has some very odd ideas.

 

[Defcon]

Re: Review "Forged in Fire" No Spoilers

Just highlight all of your text and then use the spoiler button. Then you just write Forged in Fire in the box that pops up and then it should work. (it worked for me with your text when I tried.)

See:

Spoiler: JD's Forged in Fire review

Heavy spoilers

Well, after three months of reading I'm finally mostly done with FiF, I have 30 pages left, so I think I've read enough to judge it's quality, and it was an enjoyable read. First off the good, which I would say is definitely the characters, their interactions, and the development that they were given. The one thing that I think really stand out would have to be Qagh, the Albino, in the course of this book he went from a nameless one time villain, to a very memorable character. I thought that he had an interesting backstory, and I enjoyed the way that it tied into the Klingon forehead issues."]and I enjoyed the way that it tied into the Klingon forhead issues. I thought that it was actually done in a believable manner that really worked well with what we know about the Klingons and did a good job of explaining and resolving said issues. I also thought that the whole thing with him being sick was a good motivation, and it was almost enought to make you feel sorry for him. The whole thing with him being sick was a really good motivation for the character, and it was almost enought to make you feel a little sorry for him, almost but not quite. As for the characterisations of the other characters, I thought that they were just as good, especially Curzon Dax, who is on his way to becoming another one of my favorite cross-series characters. I've always wondered how he managed to become so close with the Klingons, and overall I thought this book did a really good job of showing us a believable begging to that relationship. The book also did a good job of showing us how it was that Sulu became Captain of the Excelsior, and I have to say that I was not expecting it to be tied Blood Oath story, so that was another great suprise (well it wasn't a suprise when I was reading the book, but it was a suprise when I learned about the book's story several months ago). I also liked the way that the Klingon Trio was portrayed in this book, I can't really come up with any specific elements that stood out, it was just well done overall. Although, I did like the twist with one of the Captains. Oh, and I'm also pretty happy with the way that it My only real issue I had with the book was that I didn't think that Qagh's plots were really anything to impressive, just a general revenge plot, but luckily everything thing else about the book was able to cancel that out.
Overall I would give it an 8/10.

It's a bizarre approach - it's the same with the web page links - if you want to rename the link to be something meaningful, you have to write what you want and then highlight it and click the button and then put in the URL.

Who ever thought of this as a process has some very odd ideas.

Actually I like it that way and think it is the easiest way to handle these things.

 

[trampledamage]

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Maybe it's just me who has odd ideas then!

 

[Christopher]

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I think it still works the other way too -- start by clicking on the spoiler button (smiley with x for mouth), type what the spoiler is about in the first box, then type the spoiler in the second box. Though if it's a long text, it's easier to write it first and then highlight and spoilify.

 

[JD]

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Only one box pops up for me, that's why I was confused.
OK, I added the code. Thank you for the help, and I apoligize if this ruined anything for anyone.

 

[Anthony Sabre]

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I'm late but I had to chime in and say just how much I enjoyed this book. When I first picked it up I was surprised at the number of pages but after finishing the book I was happy with the length of this story. I recently read Warpath, Hollow Men and Burning House and I found myself turning pages faster in this book than the afore mentioned three. I watched Blood Oath again just to see if I could find any holes and none jumped out at me. This book was a worthy prequel to one of my favored DS9 episodes and provided an excellent story about Sulu's rise to the big chair. Well done.

 

[Kopernikus]

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I'm currently at about 2/3 of the book, so far all can say is: Wow! With "The Sundered" Mangels and Martin wrote one of my all time favourites, their later books were, at least for me, a bit disappointing compared to "The Sundered". Novels like "Last full Measure" or "The Good That Men Do" were not exactly bad or boring, but somehow never made it beyond mediocrity. But with this one, they're back on track, a good story, interesting characters and lots of action and politics, everything a good Trek novel needs. Given the fact that both Sulu/Excelsior-novels so far have been awesome, I hope that the sales of "Forged in Fire" justify to publish more stories in that line.

 

[Andy Mangels]

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Thanks to all for your comments!

 

[ProwlAlpha]

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Overall, the book was a good book, but towards the end, it was reasonable Trek cliche book:

1. Sulu's superiors do not like him because they do not like Kirk and his adventures.
2. Sulu disregarding orders and following the Albino.
3. Sulu's honorable actions keep him from being court martialed.
4. Albino's quest for revenge.
5. Inept Starfleet Admirals

I do like how the book starts with the Albino's back story, and his little quest to cure himself. Sulu attempting to try to get away from his illustrious aka infamous past. The numerous past Trek references.

Is it me or does Koloth receive a lot of vessels. I mean from 2269 to 2270, he commanded the Gr'oth, the OghwI, and the Gr'oth II. Two of the vessels were destroyed in that two year time frame. Maybe someone in the KDF should pay more attention.

 

[KRAD]

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^ Given the way Klingons lead their lives, particularly the way the warrior class does, I'm sure most captains go through a lot of ships.

 

[ProwlAlpha]

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Yeah, I suppose the Klingon shipbuilding industry is the either the quickest or the busiest.

 

[JD]

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Or both. I have a feeling Klingons ship probably don't take a real long time to build, since they don't worry to much about looking pretty or being comfortable.

 

[ProwlAlpha]

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I have been wondering if the QaD, the Klothos, the Mev'Luh, and the Gal'tagh are D-7s or are they K'tingas?

 

[Therin of Andor]

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I have been wondering if the QaD, the Klothos, the Mev'Luh, and the Gal'tagh are D-7s or are they K'tingas?

IKS Klothos was pre TMP. It was featured and named in TAS: "The Time Trap", and canonized by a reference in the live-action DS9 episode, "Once More Unto the Breach".