Retro-casting superhero films and shows

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  1. Nerys Myk

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    I'm sure Giffen, DeMatteis and Maguire feel the same ;)

    Artie is a master of disguise, but even he cant pull off playing a teen or a twenty something.
     
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    Hmm.. Lou Ferrigno as Colossus? Or hmm maybe eh.. The Hulk? :whistle:
     
  3. JRoss

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    Okay, 40s-era Aquaman. As if they made a serial like the old Captain Marvel and Batman stuff. Keep in mind that Aquaman was woefully lacking in development back in teh 40s, especially compared to Captain Marvel and the rest. He had no recurring allies (Mera came around in the 60s, IIRC, and so did Black Manta)

    Arthur Curry: Johnny Weismuller or Buster Crabbe, depends on if you want an Aquaman/Tarzan or Aquaman/Flash Gordon crossover
    Blackjack: His nemesis from the 40s, just a pirate. I choose Wallace Beery.

    Now for some from outside of the 40s.

    Mera: An unknown Cyd Charisse EDIT to add Esther Williams
    Black Manta: Paul Robeson
    Aqualad: It would have to have been Garth back then. Jackie Cooper
    Ocean Master: Lionel Barrymore
     
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  4. Kai "the spy"

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    I'm guessing it's not a coincidence you picked two candidates for Arthur who had careers in competition swimming prior to their acting careers. Good picks. :techman:
     
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  5. JRoss

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    Not a coincidence. Ideally it would have been Duke Kahanamoku, but he was in his 50s at the time. Although he was probably fit enough to do it.
     
  6. Nerys Myk

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    Crabbe also played Tarzan in the serial Tarzan the Fearless.
     
  7. Christopher

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    Note that Aquaman was not given the name "Arthur Curry" until Adventure Comics #260 in May 1959. The Golden Age Aquaman was just named Aquaman. (Talk about "woefully lacking in development.")
     
  8. Nerys Myk

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    Manta, Mera and Garth are also Silver Age additions.
     
  9. Anwar

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    Wouldn't Esther Williams be a better Mera?
     
  10. Christopher

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    As JRoss acknowledged up front.
     
  11. JRoss

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    Yes, yes, she would. For the life of me I couldn't remember her name.
     
  12. Kai "the spy"

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    "The Manhunter from Mars" (1990)
    written & directed by John Carpenter
    Music by John Carpenter & Alan Howarth
    Special Make-Up Effects by Rob Bottin
    Special Visual Effects by ILM

    John Jones - Lance Henriksen
    J'onn J'onzz - Carel Struycken
    Diane Meade - Kim Cattrall
    Despero - Keith David
     
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  13. JRoss

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    Oh, man, this one is so good. I can see it being made, too.
     
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    Two-Face: Bill Shatner, Jack Lord, George Hamilton
    Harley Quinn: Marta Kristen, Elke Sommer, or Goldie Hawn (Harley's in her twenties, not her thirties or forties)
    R'as al-Ghul: Michael Ansara, Omar Sharif, Leonard Nimoy or Henry Silva
    Poison Ivy: Tina Louise, Nichelle Nichols, Leslie Uggams
    Clayface: Boris Karloff (and I agree with you on this)
    Bane: Cal Bolder
    Killer Croc: No change
    Solomon Grundy: Cal Bolder or any other actor of a similar size, possibily even this guy
    Scarecrow: No change
    Dr. Hugo Strange: Christopher Lee or Roddy McDowell
    Deadshot: No change


    My choice: Richard Chamberlain.

    Susan Oliver would've been good as Sue.


    Swap Denzel's role and put Wesley in there, and it would work (Snipes was to play T'Challa originally in a planned Black Panther movie to made by Sony back in the '90's.)
     
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  15. JRoss

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    I really like Richard Chamberlain as Reed. Oh, and Goldie Hawn as Harley would be AWESOME. I put Mamie Van Doren mainly because I'm a big fan. Jack Lord as Two-Face is brilliant. Very dashing guy. While we're at it with the almost-captains of TOS, why not Jeffrey Hunter?

    I had never thought of Nichelle as Ivy before. As I reflect on it, I think she'd have been perfect. Probably would have brought the same energy to the role that she put into Mirror Uhura. I don't recall having heard Leslie Uggam's name before.

    Yeah, Leonard Nimoy would have done an amazing job as R'as al-Ghul. an't believe that it never crossed my mind.

    That Cal Bolder fellow certainly is imposing. Hmm, ifwe're going the bodybuilder route, I'll suggest Mickey Hargitay. Not quite as big, but I think they might have cast him. Remember how Cliff Robertson, who played Shame, had his wife as Shame's minion? Imagine Mickey Hargitay as Bane, with Jayne Mansfield as his assistant. I know they'd been divorced for years at this point, but she could have conceivably appeared in the first two seasons.

    Yeah, Wesley Snipes was the go-to guy for action back in the 90s. Hmm, if we had him as T'Challa, maybe Miguel A Nunez as Killmonger? The guy pulled off DeeJay in Street Fighter back in 94.

    EDIT: I also really like Elke Sommer and especially Marta Kristen as Harley.
     
  16. JRoss

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    One actor whom I want to call attention to is Penny Singleton. She was most famous for playing Blondie in the 40s and was also the voice of Jane Jetson. If you look up more pictures of her, she was a stunningly beautiful woman. She also had great comedic chops. I'd really recommend her as Harley in a 1940s-era Batman.
     
  17. Shaka Zulu

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    Yeah, I too can now see him as Dent/Two Face. BTW, when I said 'Richard Chamberlain as...' I meant him as Charles Xavier (there are some panels in one of the '60's X-Men comics that (to me) have him resembling Chamberlain without hair.

    Uggams played a THRUSH agent in an episode of The Girl From U.N.C.L.E., Natasha Brimstone.

    Another actor to play R'as could be....David Carradine!


    Other 60's starlets I now just thought of to play Harleen/Harley:

    Tuesday Weld
    Sue Lyon
    Hayley Mills (or her elder sister, Juliet)
    Susan Oliver
    Carol Lynley
    Mia Farrow
    Sharon Tate
    Inger Stevens
    Patty Duke
     
  18. JRoss

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    Oh, yeah. David Carradine as R'as is good. Okay, a bit recent for "retro", but here are my casting wishes for if they had continued on with the Christopher Nolan/ Christian Bale batman series. I'm not recasting, only suggesting the people that I'd like to see in unfilmed roles.

    Penguin: PHilip Seymour Hoffman
    Riddler: David Tennant
    Poison Ivy: Jessica Chastain
    Mr. Freeze: Sean Bean
    Hugo Strange: David Bowie
    Man-Bat: Andy Serkis
    Hush: Hugh Jackman
     
  19. Anwar

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    Substitute a young Charles Dance for Sean Bean and I'm for this.
     
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    I don't really see Bowie as Hugo Strange, one name I heard a lot in association with the character was Robin Williams, and I think the serious version of him would have been perfect.
    Wouldn't Hush just be Christian Bale in a dual role?