Retro-casting superhero films and shows

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  1. Henoch

    Henoch Commodore Premium Member

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    Dolph Lundgren would be about 20 in 1977-78. He might be able to play a Russian. :whistle:
     
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  2. JRoss

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    90s-era Black Panther, a Spike Lee Joint

    T'Challa: Denzel Washington
    Killmonger: Wesley Snipes
    Nakia: Nia Long
    Okoye: Jada Pinkett Smith
    W'Kabi: Malcolm Jamal Warner
    M'Baku: Tony Lister
    N'Jobu: Bobby Brown
    Shuri: Leila Ali
    Ramonda: Debbie Allen
    T'Chaka: Richard Roundtree
    Zuri: Robert Townsend
    Ulisses Klaue: Rutger Hauer
    Everett Ross: Henry Czerny
     
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  3. Captaindemotion

    Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Admiral

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    *Chef’s kiss.
     
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  4. JRoss

    JRoss Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Hardest ones to cast was Ramonda, as Phylicia Rashad and Nichelle Nichols would have also been fun choices.
     
  5. FormerLurker

    FormerLurker Commodore Commodore

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    You realize Debbie Allen and Phylicia Rashad are sisters, I trust.
     
  6. JRoss

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    Yes, yes I do. And they both have that noble but warm aspect to their personality.
     
  7. Ssosmcin

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    There was an shot of Guy Williams on Lost in Space during the pilot that reminded me of Mr. Fantastic during the Kirby/Sinnott era. So I would have loved to see him play that.

    That is my only contribution to this thread... :rommie:
     
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  8. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Okay, I'll get in on the action. Alternate Universe Batman '89:

    Screenplay: Tom Mankiewicz (First Draft), Edward Neumeier & Michael Miner (Second Draft)
    Director: Ridley Scott
    Music: Basil Poledouris

    Batman/Bruce Wayne - Dylan McDermott
    Joker - David Bowie
    Alfred Pennyworth - John Cleese
    James Gordon - Tom Skerritt
    Dick Grayson - Cory Haim
    Selina Kyle - Sherilyn Fenn
    Silver St. Cloud - Rosanna Arquette
    Rupert Thorne - Brian Dennehy
    Sarah Essen - Susan Sarandon
    Harvey Bullock - John Goodman
    Lucius Fox - James Earl Jones
    Harvey Dent - Denzel Washington
     
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  9. JD

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    David Bowie as The Joker and John Cleese as Alfred would have been amazing. Thinking about it, I'm kind of amazed Cleese as Alfred hasn't happened yet, it seems like perfect casting, even today.
     
  10. Captaindemotion

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    His Q in Die Another Day was probably as close as we'll get.
     
  11. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I did consider other options, btw. One worry about Cleese was his size. At 6'5, he'd habe been quite a bit taller than Batman. I obviously decided it wasn't that important for Batman to be taller than Alfred. But here are some of my second choices:

    Batman\Bruce Wayne - Eric Stoltz
    Joker - Tim Curry
    Alfred Pennyworth - Derek Jacobi
    James Gordon - Danny Glover
     
  12. Ovation

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    Alfred was pretty tall in Batman ‘66. Didn’t matter.
     
  13. Captaindemotion

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    Curry was in the running to play the Joker in 1989. I can see why they went with Nicholson obviously, given his superstar status and he was great, but I really wish they’d gone with Tim.

    Apparently he was originally to voice the character in TAS but they didn’t like his take (though he claims it was because he developed bronchitis).
     
  14. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I believe it wasn't so much that they didn't like his take as they liked Hamill's better.
     
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  15. Christopher

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    https://dcau.fandom.com/wiki/Joker#Background_information
     
  16. Anwar

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    They got the idea for Curry as Joker probably because they saw him in IT as Pennywise (Batman TAS was came out in 1992, meaning they'd been working on it in 1991 only 1 year after the IT TV Mini). But the problem was that he couldn't keep up the Joker laugh without leaving himself hoarse and in pain.

    IE, he hammed it up so much it physically was hurting him.

    Not wanting to harm one of their actors, they just went with Hamill after he voiced a smarmy villain in "Heart of Ice". He was Mr Boyle, the guy who essentially created Mr Freeze.

    And also, let's face it even as Pennywise and the Brooklyn accent he gave him, Curry isn't THAT good at an American accent and Joker is an American Lunatic.

    EDIT: Most likely, he did do some recordings as Joker. There's one episode where Kevin Conroy did a scene where Bruce Wayne has a nightmare of Joker and Conroy himself did the laugh. It's a dead ringer for Curry's style of laughing, not Hamills's take.
     
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  17. Captaindemotion

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    Apparently he did record 4 episodes.
     
  18. JD

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    Damn, you are really good at this.
     
  19. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Probably. Personally, I got the idea while watching The Rocky Horror Picture Show, where Curry wore pale (not quite white) make-up, black around the eyes, and that bright red lipstick, giving amazing smiles:
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    Why, thank you.
     
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  20. JRoss

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    I like your choices, including Tom Skerritt (the poor man's American Gary Oldman), and Sherilynn Fenn. I really like them all, though. The absolute best choice is Basil Poulidouris for the composer. That would have been epic (not that I don't adore Danny Elfman's iconic score). But with that I'd just have to see Peter Weller and maybe Kurtwood Smith and Ray Wise in there somewhere.