"Technologically" evolved only, otherwise how would you explain that Riker could become a Q just like that?
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"Technologically" evolved only, otherwise how would you explain that Riker could become a Q just like that?
It's an opinion that applies to Gods as well. Just ask Apollo.
The word you are looking for is "apotheosis."
The elevation of someone to divine status; deification.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington
It depicts George Washington sitting amongst the heavens in an exalted manner, or in literal terms, ascending and becoming a god
technologically and evolutionarily
If you refer to TOS apollo then he wasn't a god at all! His "powers" depended entirely on technology and as a matter of fact he's been defeated by technology.
Most deists don't believe that their deity can be defeated by technology. Ask around, if you don't believe me.
Most Deists don't think that their deity is interested in worship or that holy books are a valid means of acquiring spiritual knowledge, and they don't really know if their deity is all-powerful or not.
Those that do are Theists.
BTW, the Klingons KILLED their Gods. Like all deities, they are more trouble than they are worth.
There's no proof that they are more evolved than humans. When Q lost his powers he was no better than an ordinary human being. Without their technology they are no more evolved than humans..
I'm not sure you understand biological evolution.
I think we're getting way of course here. The question was if Picard's speech was that of an agnostic or that of a deist. My contention is that it's the discourse of a deist.
The Klingon mythology has been mostly cribbed from Nordic Mythology (with the Valhalla, the heroes dead in combat and allthat) The part about killing the gods though is pure ST invention though. I always thought it was weird, IE even more weird than your average actual mythology. One common denominator that all gods seem to have being immortality.
Chronos ate his children and centuries later when Zeus split his stomach they were all there alive and well. Immortal, I am telling you.
You seem to be running out of arguments and have decided to switch to ad hominem instead. Please stop this or I'll have to report you.
Anyone familiar with the Balseraphic resonance? It seems to be in play in this thread now.
Feel free to report me. There is nothing "ad hominem" about expressing concern about your seemingly not knowing what evolutionary biology is.
I know evolutionary biology very well. Feel free to try to prove otherwise. Saying that someone doesn't know something is meaningless and insubstantial.I could easily say that you don't know this or that, but I'd feel childish if I did.
Proving it is something else.
no...can you explain it?
"With an IQ of 2,000." From the episode, "Deja Q".
You're conflating the Q Continuum turning people into humans as punishment as some kind of indicator they are human. Which the shows clearly show they are not. The possibility exists they were once humanoid. But they aren't any more, or else they wouldn't have to create realms humans can relate to when bringing them to the Continuum.
That doesn't explain how Riker could become a Q in about one second.
I am not sure but I think that Barclay in the Ninth degree had an IQ even higher than that.
They moved to a point where they could, literally, rewrite the fabric of the universe. They evolved. Much like the Organians from "Errand of Mercy".
Errand of Mercy said:
The Q have what many humanoids would perceive as "godlike" powers. That doesn't make them gods. The wormhole aliens in DS9 weren't gods just because the Bajorans cast them in that role.
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