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I am sick of debating things that I don't want to debate.

I mispoke on some things. What I meant to say was the fact that the Catholic Church was teaching that EARTH was the center of the universe, not that the world was flat.
 
I am sick of debating things that I don't want to debate.

I mispoke on some things. What I meant to say was the fact that the Catholic Church was teaching that EARTH was the center of the universe, not that the world was flat.
Hence the problem with religion and politics. No one listens, everyone waits for their turn to talk and no one learns anything or changes their minds.
 
I am sick of debating things that I don't want to debate.

I mispoke on some things. What I meant to say was the fact that the Catholic Church was teaching that EARTH was the center of the universe, not that the world was flat.
So you got corrected on your factual innacuracies. What's the problem? That's not persecution, censorship, or punishment, that's the basic function of a discussion board. If you can't deal with that than you don't have to constantly try and get in the last word and tell everyone not to debate you. Just stop.
 
I'll just reiterate this: obviously people are born a hermaphrodite. What other explanation is there? It may just be a glitch, or nature needs it. However, gender is environmentally constructed as far as I know.
 
I'll just reiterate this: obviously people are born a hermaphrodite. What other explanation is there? It may just be a glitch, or nature needs it. However, gender is environmentally constructed as far as I know.
sigh...you know what? Just...stop. Let it go. You're not interested in listening or learning. Take a hint: every time you post on this thread, at least one person responds with telling you at you are factually wrong and that you have "facts" confused w opinions.
 
So you got corrected on your factual innacuracies. What's the problem? That's not persecution, censorship, or punishment, that's the basic function of a discussion board. If you can't deal with that than you don't have to constantly try and get in the last word and tell everyone not to debate you. Just stop.
I'll just reiterate this: obviously people are born a hermaphrodite. What other explanation is there? It may just be a glitch, or nature needs it. However, gender is environmentally constructed as far as I know.
LOL, thanks for proving my point about you needing to have the last word. If you don't want people to discuss what you say, you need to stop saying things.

The problem wasn't with you acknowledging that hermaphrodites were born that way or not, it's that you considered something they were born with to be a sin. It's like finding someone sinful for being born with blond hair or heterochromia or a third nipple. It makes no sense.
 
In an episode that I otherwise consider to be spottily written and directed at best comes this striking scene, which asserts that Picard, poster boy for 24th-century humanity, isn't an atheist, but an agnostic:

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Personally, I don't think that Picard said anything there. To me it's self-cancelling pablum.
 
Personally, I don't think that Picard said anything there. To me it's self-cancelling pablum.

What he said is that he simply doesn't know. That is how I feel, as well. I don't know what, if anything, is next.
 
I am sick of debating things that I don't want to debate.

I mispoke on some things. What I meant to say was the fact that the Catholic Church was teaching that EARTH was the center of the universe, not that the world was flat.

If you don't want to debate then why do you keep responding?
 
What he said is that he simply doesn't know. That is how I feel, as well. I don't know what, if anything, is next.
Also, it reveals that Picard entertains the notion that there is some sort of unknown and unexplainable higher power in the universe.
 
What he said is that he simply doesn't know. That is how I feel, as well. I don't know what, if anything, is next.

If he wanted to say "I don't know" then he should have said "I don't know" instead of this convoluted, confusing and ultimately meaningless folderol.
 
No. It means he entertains the idea of it. It means he thinks it is a possibility. But not the only possibility. Essentially, he doesn't know.
I disagree. Once you start talking about "superior power" or something to that effect, you've left the camp of the agnostics and happily joined the one of the deists.

You can't be neutral and biased at the same time.
 
Seriously, why wouldn't Picard entertain the notion? The man has been to the edge of the universe, encountered non-corporeal life forms like the Traveler, become an energy being himself, likely knows of the existence of other dimensions where humans exist, encountered the Q Continuum.

It would show the character to be very limited if he couldn't set aside his personal views and acknowledge that certain possibilities exist.
 
Seriously, why wouldn't Picard entertain the notion? The man has been to the edge of the universe, encountered non-corporeal life forms like the Traveler, become an energy being himself, likely knows of the existence of other dimensions where humans exist, encountered the Q Continuum.

It would show the character to be very limited if he couldn't set aside his personal views and acknowledge that certain possibilities exist.

I am not arguing his reasons for being what he is. I am arguing what he is, and that's a deist.
 
I am not arguing his reasons for being what he is. I am arguing what he is, and that's a theist.

He's no more a theist than I am.

Where Silence Has Lease said:
DATA: Captain, the most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is I do not know.

***

Where Silence Has Lease said:
PICARD: Considering the marvellous complexity of our universe, its clockwork perfection, its balances of this against that, matter, energy, gravitation, time, dimension, I believe that our existence must be more than either of these philosophies. That what we are goes beyond Euclidian and other practical measuring systems and that our existence is part of a reality beyond what we understand now as reality.

He doesn't know.
 
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