Aw, you shouldna skipped the pirate one. Tricorns are cool!
And had a good Amy/Rory moment. Glad you're liking it though!
Reflections for a nwhobie...
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Aw, you shouldna skipped the pirate one. Tricorns are cool!
And had a good Amy/Rory moment. Glad you're liking it though!
I liked Eccleston's Portrayal so it does irk me that he's not game for a reprisal.
Would therefore love to see a flashback or multi-doc story where we see McGann regenerate not into Ecclestone, but to Grant and a moody yet light hearted adventure then follows.
My opinions on the new Doctors keep undergoing revisions. I loved Eccleston when I first saw him. But then Tennant immediately swept me off my feet, particularly when he started inadvertantly quoting The Lion King in "The Christmas Invasion." But as Tennant's tenure went on, I kinda got sick of him, particularly thanks to over-the-top episodes like "Last of the Time Lords" & "The Doctor's Daughter." By the end of "The End of Time," I was practically screaming at the screen, "For gods' sake, just regenerate already!!!!"
Still, I was trepidatious about Smith at first. His initial scene at the very end of "The End of Time" didn't quite work for me. But "The Eleventh Hour" quickly rectified that, particularly around "Beans are evil." As it stands, Smith is my favorite of the new Doctors and is constantly struggling with Patrick Troughton, Tom Baker, & Paul McGann for my #1 spot.
But now I'm reevaluating Eccleston & Tennant. I started showing my mother a bunch of Smith episodes, which she loved, and then starting going back and showing her some Eccleston & Tennant episodes to establish the backstory (particularly with the Weeping Angels in "Blink" & River Song in "Silence in the Library"/"Forest of the Dead"). Re-watching some of the better Tennant episodes have reminded me of why I liked him as the Doctor in the first place. On the other hand, after getting used to the usually pleasant demeanors of Tennant & Smith, I'm finding it harder & harder to stomach the Eccleston episode, particularly since Rose really bugs me too.
I've been meaning to do a straight up re-watch of the entire 1st 5 seasons but it's hard because I keep loaning my DVDs to other people. (Somehow I doubt my Mad Men/Perry Mason-obsessed father will ever give Season 1 a fair shake. Meanwhile, 2 of my best friends seemed to totally lose interest after Season 2 and I don't expect them to ever actually watch the Season 3 I loaned them.) Plus, I've got so many classic DVDs to get through.
I love McGann's audio dramas, particularly the Divergent Universe stuff like "Scherzo" & "The Natural History of Fear."
I've seen all of Series 1-6.5 now.
YAY!
I ended up liking Tennant. Smith is still my favorite, but Tennant's regeneration line, "I don't want to go" I was like, I don't want you to either! Both because he was leaving and also because that was the last nuWho episode I was seeing for the first time.
YAY!
I ended up liking Tennant. Smith is still my favorite, but Tennant's regeneration line, "I don't want to go" I was like, I don't want you to either! Both because he was leaving and also because that was the last nuWho episode I was seeing for the first time.
Now would be a good time to delve into classic Who. Since you've seen the NuWho beginning to end (or is the end the beginning? 
)...Might I suggest using classic Who to gain backstory on nuWho by looking at specific elements
For example...The Master episodes in Series 3 borrow thematically from The Keeper of Traken, Logopolis, and Castrovalva.
For the Daleks, I'd do, at a minimum Genesis of the Daleks (Heck if you do that, you may as well do all of Season 12 - Tom Baker's first season)
Sontarans: The Time Warrior
Cybermen: Tomb of the Cybermen, The Invasion, Earthshock should be sufficient
Autons: Spearhead from Space, Terror of the Autons
Time Lords and Gallifrey: The War Games, The Deadly Assassin, The Invasion of Time, Arc of Infinity, The Five Doctors, Trial of a Time Lord
)...Might I suggest using classic Who to gain backstory on nuWho by looking at specific elementsFor example...The Master episodes in Series 3 borrow thematically from The Keeper of Traken, Logopolis, and Castrovalva.
For the Daleks, I'd do, at a minimum Genesis of the Daleks (Heck if you do that, you may as well do all of Season 12 - Tom Baker's first season)
Sontarans: The Time Warrior
Cybermen: Tomb of the Cybermen, The Invasion, Earthshock should be sufficient
Autons: Spearhead from Space, Terror of the Autons
Time Lords and Gallifrey: The War Games, The Deadly Assassin, The Invasion of Time, Arc of Infinity, The Five Doctors, Trial of a Time Lord
The main Classic story I'd recommend would be "The Tomb of the Cybermen", especially since you like Matt Smith's portrayal. Apparently he liked it so much that he rang up Steven Moffatt in the middle of the night to praise it for 20 minutes and ask to wear a bow tie.
And I would say that this opinion is pure nonsense.
Of course the production values aren't anywhere near what we have now. But many of the stories are. "The Dalek Invasion of Earth", "The Power of the Daleks", "The Tomb of the Cybermen", "Inferno", "Genesis of the Daleks", "Pyramids of Mars", "The Hand of Fear", "The Talons of Weng-Chiang", "The Caves of Androzani", and "Remembrance of the Daleks" all quickly come to mind as fantastic stories.
The classic stories obviously look and feel very different from nuWho. But the spirit is the same. The Doctor, in all his incarnations, is still essentially that same madman with a box. There are companions fantastic and awful throughout the stories. Many of the classic villains and monsters are well-conceived and some are well-executed. Others are not; that's just part of the charm. And the stories feel different all throughout Classic Who's run; instead of nuWho being entirely different, it's simply another change in the feel of the program.
Bottom line: If you like nuWho, there is absolutely no reason not to check out the classic stories. You'll probably hate some, but you'll probably love a whole lot more.
ETA: It's Remembrance of the Daleks which is a classic, not Resurrection of the Daleks. Whoops.
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I find it's usually charm that gets me dated.
Just ask yourself one question. Can you sit down and enjoy an old pre-70's movie, or a bunch of ST:TOS episodes?
If so, you should be able to handle classic Who.
If so, you should be able to handle classic Who.
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Well played Sir.
I recently breezed through all of Jon Pertwee's Episodes, and I think most of them are still pretty accessible Entertainment-wise for a modern audience.
I'm in the process of watching this now via iTunes and I'm quite enjoying it. I haven't seen many Pertwee stories, so I also like that it's also the 3rd Doctor's first story, which offers some post-regeneration amusement.
TNG is terribly, terribly dated.
Movies are a different animal. Some are good. The classics are classics.
I haven't watched TOS since I was a child although I have caught glimpses of it now and again and I know I couldn't watch a whole episode. Television is definitely of its time, unlike movies.
Or you're wrong, some movies considered good at the time (even so-called classics) are shit, and some TV is timeless. And usually, the answer depends on who's watching.
In any event, you'll at least find episodes of classic Who that are better than the worst of new Who.
In any event, you'll at least find episodes of classic Who that are better than the worst of new Who.
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I said TV was definitely of its time unlike movies which are not necessarily of their time. There are plenty of shit movies out there to be sure. I've never come across timeless TV, although some modern sci fi is much less tied to the culture that created it than in the past.
I guess I wasn't terribly clear. It wasn't about story quality. My point was that if you're the sort of person who simply won't watch an old movie or tv show because its in black and white, or doesn't have fancy cgi special effects, you probably won't care for classic Who. If these things don't bother you, then it should be fine.
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