Refit/1701-A - 3D Model, Full Interior
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Hmmm, so... I thought I had enough room available for access to the lower lounge, but in practice with some girders added it's actually a really awkward entrance. The opening is a standard 36" door, and while it almost fits, the diagonal beam and the planter sticking out of the upper lounge prevents proper access to the doorway;
Here's what it looks like with my 6' Spock dummy, who is definitely not happy with the entrance. It's also pretty rubbish in VR.
Soooo, it looks like the only solution is to go with Andrew Probert's concept art from '79 (https://thirdwavedesigndotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/probert-lounge-002-150ppi.jpg) with the open plan lounge. It's actually great how Andrew's concept art has proven itself to be the most viable solution twice now. Firstly with the stepped Rec Deck, and now with the lounge
I think this is actually going to be a blessing in disguise, because losing the awkward doorway enables me to include some toilets and a more feasible mess area;
Here's what it looks like with my 6' Spock dummy, who is definitely not happy with the entrance. It's also pretty rubbish in VR.
Soooo, it looks like the only solution is to go with Andrew Probert's concept art from '79 (https://thirdwavedesigndotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/probert-lounge-002-150ppi.jpg) with the open plan lounge. It's actually great how Andrew's concept art has proven itself to be the most viable solution twice now. Firstly with the stepped Rec Deck, and now with the lounge
I think this is actually going to be a blessing in disguise, because losing the awkward doorway enables me to include some toilets and a more feasible mess area;
Hmmm, so... I thought I had enough room available for access to the lower lounge, but in practice with some girders added it's actually a really awkward entrance. The opening is a standard 36" door, and while it almost fits, the diagonal beam and the planter sticking out of the upper lounge prevents proper access to the doorway;
Here's what it looks like with my 6' Spock dummy, who is definitely not happy with the entrance. It's also pretty rubbish in VR.
Soooo, it looks like the only solution is to go with Andrew Probert's concept art from '79 (https://thirdwavedesigndotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/probert-lounge-002-150ppi.jpg) with the open plan lounge. It's actually great how Andrew's concept art has proven itself to be the most viable solution twice now. Firstly with the stepped Rec Deck, and now with the lounge
I think this is actually going to be a blessing in disguise, because losing the awkward doorway enables me to include some toilets and a more feasible mess area;
Temporary partitions could be pulled across/up/down to hive off sections temporarily I guess.
Oh Yeah. Mine is glued in my saucer now. I can barely see it.I've only seen this around and have not studied all of the geometry yet, but this was Polar Lights' solution:
I do keep looking at splashing out on the 1/350 Polar Lights model, but having never constructed or painted a miniature before I'm nervous that I'd completely mess it up. At least with digital models you have an undo button
I spent most of last night fixing minor errors and cleaning up stray geometry, and I also started building the mountings for the bridge module. I'll use the hollow space above the B Deck corridor for the hardware that controls the clamping mechanism, which means pretty much every inch of available space on B Deck contains something.
The lounge walls are now gone, and depending on how it looks I might turn the support columns into attractive pillars like the ones we see in the 1701-a ship's wheel room. I'll stick some lighting sconces on them too.
I was also messing around with bolts and things. I'm going to make each physical bolt a clone of the same component, because Sketchup gives you a count of how many instances of a component are used in a model. That means I'll know exactly how many bolts were used in the ship's construction, which for some reason I think is important :P
The lounge walls are now gone, and depending on how it looks I might turn the support columns into attractive pillars like the ones we see in the 1701-a ship's wheel room. I'll stick some lighting sconces on them too.
I was also messing around with bolts and things. I'm going to make each physical bolt a clone of the same component, because Sketchup gives you a count of how many instances of a component are used in a model. That means I'll know exactly how many bolts were used in the ship's construction, which for some reason I think is important :P
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I was also messing around with bolts and things. I'm going to make each physical bolt a clone of the same component, because Sketchup gives you a count of how many instances of a component are used in a model. That means I'll know exactly how many bolts were used in the ship's construction, which for some reason I think is important :P
You're quite insane, but it's a charming kind of insanity that warms one's heart. Songs will be sung of your madness.
Are you optimizing your models for use in a real-time engine/VR? Looking at the way you’re constructing things, I fear that you’re going to have major performance issues in Unreal. Are you baking normal maps from high-poly models are or you relying on geometry to carry all the weight?
Actually even less, they're octagons
At the moment there are no UV unwraps or anything, it's just pure geometry. That's purely because I'm modelling in Sketchup, which has no native UV unwrapping capability. Once I'm happy with the construction I'm going to be exporting to Blender to perform the UV unwrapping, and then Substance Painter to do all the texturing and normal maps etc. I hope to be able to cut down on the polys considerably once I'm using normal maps, but thanks to occlusion the VR performance is still fine at the moment on my ageing i5 with 8GB RAM & a GTX 960
I think the workflow needs to go something like... 3D Model > Revit > Architect > Crowd Funding > Purchase Land > Hire Construction Company
I do keep looking at splashing out on the 1/350 Polar Lights model, but having never constructed or painted a miniature before I'm nervous that I'd completely mess it up. At least with digital models you have an undo button
It's an amazing model. It fits together really well. It's taking me so long because I'd never made a model before and I decided to light it. I'm having mixed results with light blocking and fitting it all together but without the lights it would be a dream to build .
I've added the emergency exit/maintenance access hatch under the bridge viewscreen. Can you spot the deliberate mistake: P
Yeah, the nifty hiding place where an assassin can enter unseen, and take out the first and second in command. ;-)
They will have security in place to open the hatch. "Identify for toupee scan..."
Plus the room below is a high-security area because of the whole computer core and EPS network thing, so without the correct toupee rank you can't get anywhere near the hatch
There are however unconfirmed reports of a security loophole involving strapping a tribble to your head.
I've been away at the Download music festival in the UK for the past week, but now I'm back and working hard on getting this lounge finished. I've completely moved away from the colour scheme seen in TMP and I'm now using something more like what we see in TWOK, mixed with a dash of luxury yacht. I'm struggling with the chair colour though... cream blends in too much with the carpet, brown leather looks a bit tacky, and blue looks out of place. I imagine I'm probably going to go with the same blue seen on the chairs in Kirk's quarters, I just need to find a shade that looks good.
Any suggestions gratefully received
Any suggestions gratefully received
Yeah, it's actually quite difficult to hit the right balance between luxury and utility, although Kirk's quarters in TWOK are similar with regard to the use of wood and gold trim. His TWOK quarters are significantly more opulent compared to what we see in TMP, so it's likely that other areas of the ship also underwent a similar upgrade.
