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RedLetterMedia on the Current State of Star Wars and it's Fandom

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The key question is: why do some SW fans hate RLM for opinion?
I think it's that whole shoot the messenger thing. It's not just RLM (who I openly admit to being oblivious of until this thread). There is a tendency to dislike a person for the opinion they have on a subject, even if that subject is a fictional work.
 
I think it's that whole shoot the messenger thing. It's not just RLM (who I openly admit to being oblivious of until this thread). There is a tendency to dislike a person for the opinion they have on a subject, even if that subject is a fictional work.

@BillJ and I (for instance) disagree almost completely on DSC, but I like him :shrug:. It's more a question of liking or disliking the thought process and rationale which lead to a given opinion.
 
It's the opinion that one can agree with or disagree with. Content.

There's more to content than what is on the surface and understanding the layers of meaning is important.

Someone saying "I don't like TLJ", for instance, can mean a great many things because there are many possible underlying questions and reasons for such a statement, not all of which correlate to what someone overtly presents or even are willing to admit to themselves. Often you can hear (or read) what someone is claiming as a rationale but it's clear on a human level that there's more there, which leads you to challenge the claim.
 
There's more to content than what is on the surface and understanding the layers of meaning is important.

Someone saying "I don't like TLJ", for instance, can mean a great many things because there are many possible underlying questions and reasons for such a statement, not all of which correlate to what someone overtly presents or even are willing to admit to themselves. Often you can hear (or read) what someone is claiming as a rationale but it's clear on a human level that there's more there, which leads you to challenge the claim.
Personally I can vehemently defend my views for example. That is all I feel required to do ;) Trying to change someone else's? That doesn't feel like my place and believe me when I say I am conversant with being in an environment with a number of people/fans who hold opinion contrary to my own. I actually appreciate the inner truths that are reflected in opinion, even when quite often I disagree. It's raw and honest, lol. Challenging it implies I think I'm better equipped to have formed it. Well I am :guffaw:

Back to the OP. You know what I 'got' from the link? The staging and props. Fabulous.
 
No, it's actually a perfectly reasonable request to make of someone who's not a troll just seeking to provoke and who actually wants to encourage discussion, so obviously you'd reject it as ridiculous.

I watched the relevant Star Wars portion of the video, and while it was stupid and dismissive as so many of RLM's videos are, it lacked the racism, homophobia, and misogyny that are hallmarks of most of your Star Wars complaints, so I wonder what made you like it so much, other than just the negativity? Do you just pathetically like anything anti-Star Wars without thinking and share it here?


seriously??

LMAO! Yea, cause that's the "REAL" reason, we should all JUST admit it.. sure there are some out there who are like that.. but to equate all negative comments about the film, franchise direction to what you said above, reminds me of a certain "loser" who has the same ideas about people.. What a joke.

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” ~HRC
 
seriously??

LMAO! Yea, cause that's the REAL reason.. sure there are some out there who are like that.. but to equate all negative comments about the film, franchise direction to what you said above, reminds me of a certain "loser" who has the same ideas about people.. What a joke.

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” ~HRC
I'd be delighted if you can use that 200+ IQ to point out where in that post I said anything about "all negative comments/commenters about the film" (which film, btw? The thread is about the state of the franchise as a whole)? I was talking specifically about Kane_Steel himself, though you fit the description as well now that you've involved yourself. Nor did I make any kind of political connection.
 
seriously??

LMAO! Yea, cause that's the "REAL" reason, we should all JUST admit it.. sure there are some out there who are like that.. but to equate all negative comments about the film, franchise direction to what you said above, reminds me of a certain "loser" who has the same ideas about people.. What a joke.

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” ~HRC

Well, given the rise and mainstreaming of neo-Nazis, Breitbart, Milo Yiannopoulos, Roy Moore (who, may I remind you, barely lost) and Alex Jones she wasn't wrong. And thanks for starting the quote with "You know, to just be grossly generalistic...". That part usually gets left out.
 
I'd be delighted if you can use that 200+ IQ to point out where in that post I said anything about "all negative comments/commenters about the film" (which film, btw? The thread is about the state of the franchise as a whole)? I was talking specifically about Kane_Steel himself, though you fit the description as well now that you've involved yourself. Nor did I make any kind of political connection.

HAHAHA.. that's funny start right off with Sarcastic allusions to my smarts eh? cute. Just cute. Almost as cute as all the Fembabies crying foul anytime someone says a harsh word of criticism against their Holdo, Tico, and any other feminist Icon like Mary sue, ahem Rey.. Too cute by half.

Hmm. My bad, I didn't take the full context of your discussion into consideration before knee jerk posting there, but alas, I just showed weakness and I am sure that is an opening to take advantage, as many of people who fit "you're description of intellect" tend to do. Oh well.

Sorry for the interruption, carry on the self righteous soap box you got going. anyone contradicts you, I am sure there's a basket over here you can lay them in with me and my 200+ IQ to keep them company. The peanut gallery sends their regards. Next time, I will be much more thorough in researching your conversation before I interject myself into it.

~Cheers social warrior, carry on the struggle. :techman:
You so woke, Vivarin can't touch you! :eek: LMAO! :guffaw:
 
Almost as cute as all the Fembabies crying foul anytime someone says a harsh word of criticism against their Holdo, Tico, and any other feminist Icon like Mary sue, ahem Rey..
"Fembabies"? Why do you even protest accusations of misogyny when you so openly exemplify it? Just admit what you are.

I just showed weakness and I am sure that is an opening to take advantage, as many of people who fit "you're description of intellect" tend to do.
That stings coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

~Cheers social warrior, carry on the struggle. :techman:
You so woke, Vivarin can't touch you! :eek: LMAO! :guffaw:
It adorable that you think accusing me of fighting for social justice would somehow be an insult.
 
Well no one's perfect :lol:
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A YouTube channel made by a group of friends from Wisconsin that gained prominence from their "Mr. Plinkett" reviews of the Star Wars prequels. They have the shows "Best of the Worst" (where they sit through three z-grade movies), "Wheel of the Worst" (where they spin a wheel to decide which three straight-to-video infomercials/instruction videos/children's programs/etc. from the '90s they have to sit through), "Half in the Bag" (where they review movies currently in theaters) and "re:View" (where they retrospectively review older movies).

They're hands down the best "someone reviews or reacts to shlocky movies" channel on YouTube.
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OK, it actually sounds like their stuff might worth checking out. Given the source of the link, I had assumed they were just a bunch of angry nerds constantly ranting about how much they hate everything.
HAHAHA.. that's funny start right off with Sarcastic allusions to my smarts eh? cute. Just cute. Almost as cute as all the Fembabies crying foul anytime someone says a harsh word of criticism against their Holdo, Tico, and any other feminist Icon like Mary sue, ahem Rey.. Too cute by half.

Hmm. My bad, I didn't take the full context of your discussion into consideration before knee jerk posting there, but alas, I just showed weakness and I am sure that is an opening to take advantage, as many of people who fit "you're description of intellect" tend to do. Oh well.

Sorry for the interruption, carry on the self righteous soap box you got going. anyone contradicts you, I am sure there's a basket over here you can lay them in with me and my 200+ IQ to keep them company. The peanut gallery sends their regards. Next time, I will be much more thorough in researching your conversation before I interject myself into it.

~Cheers social warrior, carry on the struggle. :techman:
You so woke, Vivarin can't touch you! :eek: LMAO! :guffaw:
Wow, you're really starting to sound like a parody of yourself here.
 
OK, it actually sounds like their stuff might worth checking out. Given the source of the link, I had assumed they were just a bunch of angry nerds constantly ranting about how much they hate everything.
They’re actually really good, the best show is Wheel of the Worst. It’s usually them watching bizarre stuff.
 
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