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Spock doesn't even like her. In fact he appears to be still angry with and resent her. There's a scene in one of the season previews (presumably yet to come) where Michael and Spock are arguing, she says she sacrificed everything for him and he counters by saying she keeps taking on burdens as if they're hers alone. I think the writers are very aware of her flaws and are going to use Spock to point some of them out.

Also, what's so terrible about a competent woman being a savior of the galaxy for once? She is the lead, after all. And of course she'd never be able to do it without everyone else's support. That's a given. So why does it stick in people's craw so much?

Nothing to do with her being a woman. Just find her charactor dull compared to the others.

That's really my main issue with discovery now. It being focused around her who just doesn't appeal to me as a charactor, I think the show should ( and it already seems to be going in this direction) branch out to other charactors.
Making the show about one person is a weakness.
 
The one thing potentially against Michael being the Red Angel is that its first action was to get Spock to save her life when they were children - which means she must have originally died, and thus couldn't become the Red Angel to go back and save herself.

But I've seen enough time travel episodes to know there are even ways round that...
 
But the RA's form is clearly feminine in shape. Also Spock calls it a 'she'.

I give you Jane Lucy Picard:

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Assuming it is Michael: Nope it only becomes a paradox if she did die in the past, because then she wouldn't be able to later on become the RA to go back in time and save herself. Also, I think the point was that as a child he was warned about a possible future outcome and prevented it, just like he's being expected to prevent the total destruction of the founding Federation worlds that he's also 'seen happen'. We know the four worlds are not destined or supposed to be destroyed because we already have canon that they are fine in TOS and beyond. Therefore these are events which were always prevented due to the RA's, Spock's, Michael's and Discovery's intervention. Basically this is going to be a closed temporal loop.
 
Picard, surely.

I can't think of anyone else that would make sense. It's a human, it's a time traveller, they are obviously setting up for a "Big reveal" so it's not just "some guy"

My theory Stewart came in to film it as a guest spot and that's when they did a deal for a picard show.

Second theory/prediction is that the final shot of this season is helmet comes off and it's Picard, and the picard show will end the season setting up picard getting the suit and going back in time to discovery era


It will not be Picard for contractual reasons - Netflix has the distribution license for discovery and related properties. The Picard show is outside of that relationship and they want to keep them separate.
 
Well, they seem to be seeding it with clues that lean in that direction. Sure, it's predictable, as in making plausible sense at this stage because of the writing. I'm not a fan of shocking twists for their own sake, myself.

New info might drop, though, which could change the equation entirely. I'm fond of the idea of it being dueling AI's with the RA being a Zora avatar. But haven't they basically confirmed it's human and female wearing a technologically advanced suit of some kind?
 
If Michael is the RA, then she knew to visit Spockto save her because she already saw herself do it in Spock‘s memory.

It‘s a loop, but works. Same logic as in Harry Potter.
 
Well, they seem to be seeding it with clues that lean in that direction. Sure, it's predictable, as in making plausible sense at this stage because of the writing. I'm not a fan of shocking twists for their own sake, myself.

New info might drop, though, which could change the equation entirely. I'm fond of the idea of it being dueling AI's with the RA being a Zora avatar. But haven't they basically confirmed it's human and female wearing a technologically advanced suit of some kind?
Spock said she was human yes.
 
If Michael is the RA, then she knew to visit Spockto save her because she already saw herself do it in Spock‘s memory.

It‘s a loop, but works. Same logic as in Harry Potter.

The interesting thing is then the "threat from the future" could be a red herring.

Spock got the memory from an attempted mold with the Red Angel. Burnham got it from Spock via the Talosians. If Burnham becomes the Red Angel, the memory can go full circle without ever actually happening.
 
I still wonder what happened between him and Kurtzman. Someone asked him on Trekmovie if Orci will come back to Trek, but Orci ominously said "You can't go home again."

Unrelated to the red angel for a moment:
I remember Orci posting on another site that Harrison/Khan was originally just Harrison and that the Khan angle was foisted upon the script after the fact. Shoehorned in. Orci’s words made it seem like he wasn’t keen on the change.

I could definitely be misremembering. It’s been years.
 
Unrelated to the red angel for a moment:
I remember Orci posting on another site that Harrison/Khan was originally just Harrison and that the Khan angle was foisted upon the script after the fact. Shoehorned in. Orci’s words made it seem like he wasn’t keen on the change.

I could definitely be misremembering. It’s been years.
It was Damon Lindelhof that insisted they change Harrison to Khan. However, I have always had the feeling that it probably came from Paramount.
 
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I think the Red Angel reveal is going to be a little less shocking / twisty than many of you are theorizing.

And I think that is a good thing.
 
But why would Future Michael Burnham travel back in time to 2053 Earth and rescue a group of people in Indiana just before a nuclear bomb detonates? See, that's where the "it's Burnham" theory really breaks down.

Why would she visit World War III Earth and abduct a group of survivors, transplanting them to a distant planet?
 
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