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Re-Watching DS9

I have a theory about why nobody said anything to Kosh after Deathwalker was killed. Unfortunately, my reasoning would be a pretty big spoiler, so it's going to have to wait until Lord Garth is much further along in the series.

(However, if anyone is interested in knowing it and you have seen B5 before, I'd be happy to discuss the idea with you and get your thoughts on a personal message.)
 
Babylon 5 -- The First Season

I'm including the pilot in this review. First of all, I'm glad I watched every episode at least twice. I gained a new perspective on these episodes that I hadn't the first time around. How do I want to break this up? Starting off with the characters, patterns I noticed in the episodes themselves, and then finally the numbers.

THE CHARACTERS

Sinclair:
I know it's his only season, but I liked the way they built up the mystery around him during it. He has a destiny, the Minbari see him as special, and he's trying to piece together what happened at the end of the Earth-Minbari War a decade earlier. He's strong, firm, but also understanding. The perfect combination for a station commander. Right as he's about to get married, that's when the shit hits the fan.

Ivanova: Whatever she's going through in life, she buries herself in work so has to not have to think about it. She doesn't suffer those who get in the way of station operation. She pulls off the touches of being Russian far better than Chekov ever did. Great one-liners. I like the storyline with her grieving the loss of her father. I also liked the delving into her dislike of telepaths because of what happened to her mother.

Garibaldi: Functionally, his role might be the Odo of Babylon 5, but as a person he's really more like O'Brien. He's the everyman kind of guy. I agree with those elsewhere who've said he could've been dropped right into a cop show, and he'd fit right in. He didn't have as much of an arc as Ivanova or especially Sinclair, but it was nice to get a glimpse into some of his life immediately before he was assigned to Babylon 5.

Talia: She didn't have an arc, but her telepathy is put to much better use than Troi's usually was. They really touch into telepaths having to keep themselves from reading people's minds who don't wish it. When she goes into people's minds, I like that we get to visually see her in someone's mind. At one point, when she's joining with the mind of a murderer, we see nothing but the two of them and a black background lit with red. The red, representing blood. I hope they get to do more with her in the future.

Franklin: He didn't have an arc either, but when an episode focused on him, he really delivered. He's a bold doctor who's not afraid to take a stand no matter what it might cost him. All he wants to do is heal people, and it tears him up when he can't.

Londo: A lot of the time he's comic relief, but when he's not he's in a situation where you feel bad for him and sometimes even in a situation where he's in way over his head, including in the season finale. His friendship with Garibaldi is a highlight of the show. His arguments with G'Kar are comedic gold.

G'Kar: At first, I thought he might be the Dukat of the series, they have similar mannerisms, but I see they're very different. G'Kar is content with being an Ambassador. He's also always got a trick up his sleeve, always trying to see where he can give the Narn an advantage. When Londo's not the comic relief, he's the comic relief.

Delenn: There's more to her than anyone would think. So much more that she doesn't even want her aide, Lennier to say that she was of the Gray Council. G'Kar tried to make an offer to her and she scared him away. The Minbari expected her to become leader of the Council and she turned it down. She has a vested interest in Humanity. And she knows about what happened to Sinclair during his black-out period. All I can say is that the more we find out about Delenn, the more questions it raises. I'll be interested to see what direction her character goes in, given how much she's entangled in and the metamorphosis she's about to go through.

PATTERNS AND TRENDS
What I had to get myself used to is the idea that certain things brought up aren't going to be revisited until later. Even though this series is serialized, it's still a '90s show. Another thing that surprised me is the season is more episodic than I would've expected. In retrospect, that makes sense. They want to take the time to develop all the different aspects of Babylon 5 in their own individual spotlight episodes before doing more with them in longer-form stories.

One major difference between B5 and DS9 is that DS9 starts off focusing mainly on the Bajorans and the Cardassians. It's a smaller focus. It doesn't begin to focus on the broader Alpha Quadrant (and Gamma Quadrant) until towards the end of the second season and into the third. Whereas with B5, it starts off with a large focus right from the beginning. Humans, Minbari, Centauri, Narn, and the Vorlons. They're all a major part right from the pilot. DS9 grew into a larger scope, but B5 had it to begin with.

I already knew that Bester was an adversary, only because I always knew Walter Koenig was in the show, but I was surprised that he only appeared once in this season. I'm guessing he shows up more later on.

Then there's Morden. He only shows up twice, but because of all the Narn lives he made sure were lost in Quadrant 37 and the way he has Londo underneath his thumb, I expect we'll see a LOT more of him. Or at least a lot more of who he works for!

I liked getting to know more of Downbelow. I imagine the more people who find their way to Babylon 5 and can't afford to leave, the more crowded Downbelow will eventually become. Maybe, maybe not. That's just me thinking out loud.

Earth Politics. Unlike on DS9, where it put a heavy emphasis on Bajor Politics early on, we didn't see that much of Earth Politics until towards the end of the season. After the assassination of President Santiago and the swearing in of President Clark, I expect there to be more of a focus in later seasons. I like how there's friction between Earth and Mars, as well as Earth itself not being as united as it is in Star Trek. They've laid out the broad strokes, now it's just a matter of seeing them be filled in more.

THE NUMBERS
Like I said, I re-watched and re-rated every episode of the first season. So here's how I rate them now:

"The Gathering" (counts twice) --> 7
"Midnight on the Firing Line" --> 7
"Soul Hunter" --> 6
"Born to the Purple" --> 8
"Infection" --> 4
"The Parliament of Dreams" --> 8
"Mind War" --> 9
"The War Prayer" --> 8
"And the Sky Full of Stars" --> 10
"Deathwalker" --> 8
"Believers" --> 10
"Survivors" --> 9
"By Any Means Necessary" --> 8
"Signs and Portents" --> 8
"TKO" --> 7
"Grail" --> 8
"Eyes" --> 10
"Legacies" --> 8
"A Voice in the Wilderness, Part I" --> 7
"A Voice in the Wilderness, Part II" --> 8
"Babylon Squared" --> 7
"The Quality of Mercy" --> 8
"Chrysalis" --> 10

I already explained my change of rating for "Deathwalker", but I should also explain my change of rating for "A Voice in the Wilderness". I thought a 6 was too harsh. I only rated it so low because I thought it dragged out, but the second part is pretty good, and I didn't most the first part taking its time when I re-visited it.

Let's see how this averages out... takes out the calculator ... I give the first season a 7.92.

That means I like the first season of Babylon 5 roughly as much as the first season of Deep Space Nine. A very good sign that my opinion of it went up on second viewing.

On to the second season! Which I'm putting on momentarily.
 
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I'm glad the season only got better for you on a rewatch and I think that's how it worked out for me as well, though for me the gap between watches was a little bit longer.

Knowing the world and characters a bit more definitely helps you appreciate what's going on with things like Londo and G'Kar, and Ivanova and the Psi Corps. I think G'Kar fits the line "no one here is exactly what they seem" better than anyone in the first season, as he's a bit of a Kira Nerys in Gul Dukat clothing, filled with righteous anger against his former oppressors and always fighting for his people. Though it's actually hard to directly match any B5 character to one from DS9... well, except for Franklin and Bashir. And I suppose Sisko and Sinclair to an extent, though they didn't have to replace Sisko with a new actor to make him seem like a different person in later seasons.

And yeah the season's so episodic that people can't agree on what order to watch it in, but it's hard to find an episode that isn't introducing or continuing something. Even TKO follows up on Ivanova's plot in Born to the Purple and foreshadows Garibaldi getting shot in the back. Even Grail mentions Babylon 4!

Anyway, you gave Chrysalis a 10 and Infection a 4, so your ratings pass the sanity check. I hope you find that season 2 continues to give DS9 a run for its money.
 
"Points of Departure" (B5 S2E1)

Commander Sinclair's reassignment to the Minbari home world as an Ambassador was abrupt but makes sense. Out of all Humans, the Minbari seem to view him as the Chosen One. Literally, since they chose him to run Babylon 5. His replacement, Captain Sheridan, has a history with the Minbari, and not a good one. The Minbari Warrior Caste is not going to respect him. At best. At worst, they'll hate him. And the Minbari Religious Caste won't see Sheridan as anything special, unlike the way they see Sinclair. So, pretty clearly, the Minbari like Sinclair better than Sheridan.

But what about me? Who do I like better? With the exception of one area, I haven't made up my mind yet. For the intro, I like Sinclair's narration in the opening credits better than Sheridan's. Michael O'Hare has a better voice for it than Bruce Boxleitner. Otherwise, I don't know. We'll see.

Interesting to finally find out why the Earth-Minbari War ended. The Minbari discovered that as they were killed, their souls were being transferred to Humans, and Sinclair had a Minbari spirit. Since Minbari don't kill each other, the Gray Council decided that they also shouldn't kill Humans, so ended the war but weren't prepared to tell anyone else the reason, since they'd never accept it.

Garibaldi's condition, Delenn's metamorphosis, G'Kar's whereabouts, Morden's scheming, and the fallout from Santiago's assassination are put on hold while this episode focuses on the new Captain. I have to feel bad for Sheridan getting thrown right in, but I'm sure he'll get up to speed quick enough.

Sheridan gives half his speech to the crew before a rouge Minbari warship, the Tragati, attack. The Trigati trying to provoke a fight so they can die in honor and have Sheridan take the fall for attacking them, opening up another Earth-Minbari War sounds like a tactic the Romulans would've tried to pull. The Trigati fail. Then, in the end, Sheridan finishes giving his speech, but no one's in the C'n'C. So, does that mean he's in for a bumpy ride? Some good luck, some bad? Because he finished the speech, but I don't know if anyone saw the finish. Just a thought that crossed my mind.

Sheridan quotes Lincoln. Do you want to know who my favorite President is? That's right. Abraham Lincoln!

Overall, this episode is good for introducing us to Sheridan, and they do a good job of pointing out the differences between him and Sinclair. There's not too much else to this episode, but that'll be left for later. This is just setting the stage. I give it a 7.

Not bad, but I'm guessing they're just warming up. But I'll find out soon enough, because I'm about to put on the next episode!

"Revalations" (B5 S2E2)

Now things are starting to warm up! Morden's back and he assures a very paranoid Londo that the Minbari will never be able to trace attack on Quadrant 37 to him. My sixth sense tells me that because Morden told Londo he's safe, the exact opposite will happen: the Minbari will eventually find out that Londo was involved! During the Council Meeting, you can just feel the tension when G'Kar returns and Londo is terrified about what G'Kar might've discovered but tries his best to hide it.

We get some backstory on Sheridan. It helps us to continue to get to know him better and allows his character development to catch up with everyone else's. He was married, his wife joined a ship call the Icarus, then she died, he didn't know it would be the last time he'd see her, and it tore him up inside. His sister visits, who he hasn't seen in two years, and it's nice to see it's not the stereotypical tension or rivalry between siblings you see a lot on TV. Sheridan's sister is worried about him, all he can talk about is how different Babylon 5 is from the Agamemnon, his previous assignment, and then she finally wants to talk about his wife, and it's an open wound. Sheridan's sister shares a message that his wife left her, and that makes him feel better. It's nice to see who Sheridan is as a person instead of just as the Captain.

The LAST thing I expected to see was the healing device from "The Quality of Mercy" to be the thing to be used to bring Garibaldi out his coma and restore him to health. Nice continuity there! And of course, he gets hit with everything all at once when he finds out about all the changes that have happened since he was shot.

Speaking of which, I loved the use of black-and-white when they showed flashbacks to when Garibaldi was shot. It only added to when Talia went into Garibaldi's mind to figure out who shot him. Then they catch the guy who did it, one of Garibaldi's own officers, and Garibaldi lets him know he's guilty of Mutiny and Treason. Garibaldi tells him he'll be spaced out. But then President Clark tells Sheridan that he wants the mutineer to be sent to Earth for trial. Something about Clark made me not trust him.

Then my suspicion was confirmed! Garibaldi doesn't want Talia to hear this, but he tells Sheridan and Ivanova that Bester might've had the Psi Corps involved in a conspiracy to assassinate President Santiago. If Clark knew anything about this, and that's why he wants the mutineer brought to Earth, then he's a true piece of Human scum. Maybe I don't want to jump to conclusions. Maybe Clark didn't know. Either way, the plot thickens! Can't wait to find out how this develops.

Finally, Delenn comes out of her cocoon, and reveals herself to now be half-Human, half-Minbari. This is my opening to talk about one of the changes to the opening credits in Season 2. They know show the characters when they list the cast. Not something I'm used to seeing in a science-fiction series, but I remember they did that with the '70s Battlestar Galactica. Anyway, for the first two episodes, they showed what Delenn looked like during the first season, so as to not spoil the reveal of Delenn's new form. Good move on their part to not give away the surprise!

So, at this point, I think the second season has settled into itself. It's fastened its seatbelt, and now we're in for a ride. Looking forward to more! I can tell from the way it's structured, this season's story is on the steady rise. For right now, I give this episode a low-key 8.

NEXT TIME: Voyager in the VOY Forum, but then back to DS9 with "Destiny".
 
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^FWIW, I think you said Delenn when you meant Talia a handful of times. :p

I don't think I have much else to say. I mostly agree with you, but you're also far more forgiving of what I perceive to be flaws with episodes than I am, even when you seem to agree with me that they are flaws.

I'm a bit surprised that in your review of "Revelations" that you don't talk more about the ill-fated and mercilessly brief expedition to Z'ha'dum...and Londo's part in it, especiallly given your S1 assessment of him.
 
^FWIW, I think you said Delenn when you meant Talia a handful of times. :p
Fuck! This is what happens when I stay up past when I should've gone to sleep! Correcting that now. Thanks for letting me know! :lol::lol::lol:

EDITED TO ADD: I think I corrected all of them. Checking one more time for any skips.
DOUBLE-EDIT: Looks like I got them all!
 
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Don't worry, Boxleitner gets better at the narration as the season goes on (seriously, they re-recorded it a few episodes in after he'd settled into the role.)

The most shocking revelation in Points of Depature is that the episode Soul Hunter had an actual reason to exist, as it establishes that souls (seem to) exist in the B5 universe. It makes the Minbari's claims a lot more convincing, so Soul Hunter is now firmly in the 'don't skip' category, along with The Quality of Mercy. I said a while back that Quality of Mercy didn't blatantly set anything up and I was being honest. It set the healing machine up sneakily, so viewers wouldn't necessarily expect it to return.

I was wondering if your version of the episodes had the correct opening with original Delenn, as not everyone has been so lucky with that. The Region 1 DVDs gave away her new look, which was apparently a mistake they inherited from its TV reruns. Incidentally, the new opening titles come with a new theme, which I appreciated. Changing the music between seasons is very anime and I like how it gives each year its own tone and identity.
 
I'm making my way through S2 on the Blu-rays, and they keep the Delenn stuff in the first few episodes a surprise, but I think maybe Sheridan's narration is consistent throughout, and the good version. I typically only watch 1-2 episodes at a time because I'm synced up with KRAD's rewatch, so I haven't really done a comparison.
 
I'm making my way through S2 on the Blu-rays, and they keep the Delenn stuff in the first few episodes a surprise, but I think maybe Sheridan's narration is consistent throughout, and the good version. I typically only watch 1-2 episodes at a time because I'm synced up with KRAD's rewatch, so I haven't really done a comparison.
I think the new voiceover appears on episode four. Compare the way he says "A shining beacon in space," and you'll know right away if it's different.
 
I think the new voiceover appears on episode four. Compare the way he says "A shining beacon in space," and you'll know right away if it's different.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't change, but I'd be curious to hear from any other Blu-ray owners. I haven't really looked to see whether any reviewers talk about it given that it's a relatively minor detail.
 
I think the new voiceover appears on episode four. Compare the way he says "A shining beacon in space," and you'll know right away if it's different.
This goes against what I'd normally do, but I'm watching the intro for an episode further into Season 2, even though I'm only on S2E3. I just have to hear the re-done voiceover right now. I was that underwhelmed with Bruce Boxleitner's first attempt.

EDITED TO ADD: Okay, it's sounds better. I actually listened to the intro for S2E13. I still prefer Michael O'Hare's version, but I can live with Bruce Boxleitner's second stab at it. Spoilers! I have to stop this episode right now! I'll pretend I didn't just see Bernie Casey. :p
 
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This goes against what I'd normally do, but I'm watching the intro for an episode further into Season 2, even though I'm only on S2E3. I just have to hear the re-done voiceover right now. I was that underwhelmed with Bruce Boxleitner's first attempt.

EDITED TO ADD: Okay, it's sounds better. I actually listened to the intro for S2E13. I still prefer Michael O'Hare's version, but I can live with Bruce Boxleitner's second stab at it. Spoilers! I have to stop this episode right now! I'll pretend I didn't just see Bernie Casey. :p
Bernie Casey is such a non-presence that it should be easy enough to pretend you didn't see him. :p #cheapshot
 
"Destiny"

I know someone IRL who believes every "End of the World" Prophecy he's ever heard. He keeps telling me it's going to be end of the world, and he's one of the 300. He also told me that China will invent robots that will destroy the world in 2025. 10-and-a-half months to go before he'll find a way to come up with something else. Vedek Yarka is reminds me of this person I know, who believes the worst possible interpretation of things that'll happen. And he doesn't allow for the fact that he might have a wrong interpretation which, in the end, he does.

I'm not surprised that Kira starts to believe Yarka after a certain point. When there are three Cardassians engineers who want to help DS9 create a relay through the Wormhole, so they can monitor activity in and communicate with the Gamma Quadrant, just like the Prophecy said, Kira begins to think they might be the three Vipers described. Instead, it turns out to be three fragments of an asteroid that are the Vipers and allow the Wormhole to be opened a nudge, metaphorically opening the gates.

What I like is that Sisko never wavers. He'll carry out his mission to ensure there's a relay through the Wormhole and to the Gamma Quadrant no matter what. He'll do what he thinks is right instead of what a piece of paper says, and unintentionally ended up doing what the piece of paper said anyway.

The three Cardassian engineers are women, and it's interesting to see some traditional gender roles be the opposite in Cardassian society. Engineering is a female-dominated field in Cardassian society, and Gilora isn't used to dealing with a man in that role. So, she doesn't know how to deal with O'Brien on a professional level and, on a romantic level, she thinks his arguing with him means he's attracted to her and wants her to be his wife. Cross-cultural misunderstandings are a thing IRL, and I imagine it would have to be even worse when dealing with alien cultures, and it's not something we see often enough of in Star Trek, so nice to see it here.

What else? I understand the sentiment Sisko has of wanting to get the Bajorans to see Cardassians as more than just brutal overseers, but I immediately thought to myself that this is the equivalent of asking Jewish people to see Germans as more than just brutal overseers in 1948, three years after World War II ended. In that context, I just don't think it's realistic.

Unlike my friend (really more like an acquaintance), Yarka admits he's wrong. But then he tells Sisko about another prophecy where Sisko will have to choose between, and then it cuts right off! I'd love to think they had some of idea for what Yarka was hinting it, but I think they were just playing with us. But, retroactively, there's probably something from DS9 Season 6 or 7 that would fit.

Overall, I give this episode an 8.
 
There's one similarity between DS9 and Babylon 5 for you: prophecy. Lots of prophecies actually.

Starfleet's always dealing with warnings from the future and I appreciate that officers typically deal with them in a rational way. If someone materialises from the future saying "Don't press the yellow button or the ship will explode," then they're going to take that information on board. But when Sisko gets the frustratingly vague message "when the vipers try to peer through the temple gates, a sword of stars will appear in the heavens, the temple will burn and the gates will be cast open," he avoids jumping to conclusions and instead makes his choices based on the evidence he has. It makes me wonder why the Wormhole aliens even shared that bit of information, considering that it doesn't influence Sisko's decision in any way and things ultimately work out fine when he ignores it.

Maybe the point was to get Sisko (and others) to believe that the prophecies really were left by timeless Wormhole aliens and do contain clues for the future, while also encouraging him to ignore them for the most part and continue making his own choices. That way when he reaches the prophecy that says "Don't press the yellow button or the ship will explode," he'll take it seriously. But I don't know.

Overall I'd give this one an 8 as well. Good episode.
 
Maybe I'm being a Cardassian apologist or sympathizer (when you know more about their civilization and where they'll be by the end of the series, it's harder not to be), but a major distinction I'd draw between the Cardassians and the Germans is that the Cardassians withdrew from Bajor seemingly voluntarily, and we know there were good or at least sympathetic people operating within their government and even their military (Kotan Padar, Legate Ghemor, Amin Marritza, etc.), and that the Cardassian people seemed to exist within a state that would tolerate no dissent.

On the other hand, the Nazis had to be conquered to end their atrocities, and I'm unaware of any evidence of there being "good" Nazis within the government or military.

All of which is to say, while I don't think anyone associated with the Cardassian government or military of the Occupation deserves much in the way of sympathy, I think some can be spared for the people who had no say in their government's actions. I wouldn't expect it to be easy and I wouldn't blame any Bajorans who struggled with it, but I got the sense that most of the Cardassian people were no more responsible for the actions of their government than most of the Bajorans were responsible for the actions of Kai Winn.
 
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