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Re-Watching DS9

Normally I wouldn't do this in the middle of the day (middle for me, anyway), but I have the day off, so why not? Warning: I'm not following the traditional format for this review. :devil:

"Battle Lines"

Jonathan Banks, a.k.a. Mike Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. His character in this episode is called Shel-El, or whatever, but I'm calling him Mike!

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I've got some stuff to say about this episode, but first let me hand it over to Mike Ehrmantraut. Mr. Ehrmantraut, what did you think of this episode? "These people were in the game and, for them, the game never ends." Anything else you want to say? "This episode was a paycheck, I needed a paycheck, simple as that." Nothing else? "Not really. Spaceships, outer space, the moon landing, I've never been that interested. I thought it was a waste of money. My boy, Matty, wanted to be an Astronaut when he grew up... but he followed in my footsteps, became a cop instead, and... We're done. We're DONE!" Sorry!

I think I see someone else around, Gus Fring, owner of the very successful restaurant chain Los Pollos Hermanos. Mr. Fring, even though you weren't in "Battlelines", what did you think of the episode? "It is acceptable." Wow, high praise coming from Gus! "Would you like to try our Spice Curls?" Sounds like Spice Girls. Was that intentional? I can't say I'm into their music, but I do like spicy fries, spicy anything actually, so why not?

And that's our Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul portion of the review!

Next up we've got Kai Opaka. How did you feel about the episode? "I knew it was my destiny to leave Bajor, go through The Wormhole, and find a new chapter in my life." Is that why you wanted to go through The Wormhole? "I don't get out that often." Okay, makes sense. I like to get out and find some excitement every now and then too. It wouldn't be to a prison moon, but I get it.

Then there's Major Kira. Are you doing okay? "I'm crying! Not just because we lost Kai Opaka, but because now we'll have to deal with Kai Winn for the next several years! How could this happen?!" I think we'll just leave the Major alone for now.

And now to get serious, though I'm still going to call Jonathan Banks' character Mike. ;)

Sisko, Kira, and Bashir take Opaka through The Wormhole on a runabout, pick up a signal, and end up crashing on a Prison Moon. Two factions are fighting each other in a never ending war where they die and keep coming back to life. A prison moon is basically a prison planet where everything is hopeless, so this is kind of like Alien 3, minus the resurrection part (unless you're Ripley, but that's a whole other story). The ever-ending war with two factions, on the other hand, feels like something that would've fit in during the middle of TNG Season 3. "Battle Lines" and "The Vengeance Factor" would go together perfectly! Except for one critical difference at the end of this episode, which I'll get to later.

Then, they connect with the leader of the faction this episode focuses on, Mike Ehrmantraut himself! This guy reminds me so much of what Mike would be like in a Star Trek episode.

Sisko, Bashir, and Kira agree to help the people on this world. Meanwhile O'Brien and Dax are in a runabout of their own, looking for them. But they're having trouble locating them. Dax says what's causing the technobabble problem, then O'Brien says "That would foul up our long-range scanners." If this were Breaking Bad, he'd be saying, "That would fuck up our long-range scanners!" Then O'Brien finds a solution. And, if Jesse were there, he'd be like, "Hell yeah! That's right! We found them, bitches! Mister O'B, magnets for the fucking win!!!"

Sorry, I had to get the Breaking Bad stuff out of my system! :angel:

Serious Mode: I really appreciated the heart-to-heart between Kira and Opaka when Opaka said Kira if she sees herself in these people. Kira says she fought to live, whereas these people are content to die (over and over), and that it was to fight to be free. She didn't enjoy any of it. She doesn't want Opaka to get the wrong idea of her. But that wasn't what Opaka was talking about. What Opaka was getting at was what Kira finally says: all she's known in her life is violence. Opaka says Bajor has much to learn about peace. Then Kira cries in Opaka's arms. Some very good acting on Nana Visitor's part. And Bajor will really lose something in Kai Opaka with her not returning.

How can I say this? I feel like Kai Opaka was left behind in an Unmoderated Internet Comments Section. This doesn't seem like destiny, it seems like being condemned to Hell.

Anyway, do I have any other thoughts? Yeah, I think -- speculation only -- the writers were looking for different ways to have more character conflict on Bajor. By getting rid of Opaka, now there are different factions on Bajor that compete for power. Kai Opaka was like George Washington, who unified all Bajorans. Now, we're going to be left with different parties, like when the Federalists and the Democratic-Republicans emerged. So now we'll have the Bajoran equivalents of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, who both had very different ideas about what to do. But that's getting ahead of myself.

What do I give this episode? I can't say I agree with all of what happens in it, and Jonathan Banks takes me out of it (even though it's not the episode's fault, I just associate him too much with Breaking Bad now), but there's some very good acting, especially from Nana Vistor, and Kai Opaka here shows a strong contrast to Kai Winn, who we'll see later on.

So... I give this episode an 8.

Some other things before I finish. The uproar from Bajor about Kai Opaka leaving the planet, going through The Wormhole, and ending up lost. Even though we don't see the Bajorans reacting, Rene Auberjonious really sells it when Odo tells Dax and O'Brien about their reactions. O'Brien and Dax tell Odo they're doing the best they can, but that sure isn't going to make anything any easier for Odo to deal with. That shot of Dax and O'Brien on the turboshaft as they leave Ops, with the camera facing upwards towards Odo conveys that they're about to descend into Hell to find Opaka. Which is where, as far as I'm concerned, she actually is! Figuratively if not literally.

"Battle Lines" is probably the most "This isn't TNG!" episode so far. If this were an episode of TNG, even a dark one, these people would get a chance to end their lives permanently. DS9 leaves it ambiguous as to whether or not this will ever happen.
 
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Agreed that this was a great one.

I think this was the true beginning of Kira's journey of growth. Definitely excellent acting on Nana's part.

One thing that the episode, or the rest of the series, never mentions is the fact it was the Emissary that brought Opaka to the Gamma Quadrant.

I always wondered a couple things. First, if there were many Bajorans who took issue with him basically being responsible for losing Opaka. (It wasn't his fault, but I can see a LOT of people seeing it that way since he was in command.) Also, what that report to Starfleet looked like and how the admirals viewed the situation.

Second, if when Opaka said she knew it was her destiny that maybe it was the only way to drive the Bajorans to look upon Sisko even more as the Emissary, and she knew that. (In the first season, he us rarely spoken of that way. It obviously grows much more as time continues.)


And because of Opaka's fate, this episode was a major catalyst for what happens to Bajor in the next couple years.
 
I always wondered a couple things. First, if there were many Bajorans who took issue with him basically being responsible for losing Opaka. (It wasn't his fault, but I can see a LOT of people seeing it that way since he was in command.) Also, what that report to Starfleet looked like and how the admirals viewed the situation.
I'll have more thoughts about this once we get to the opening episodes of Season 2. But there are certain things I want to look out for. Even if unsaid. It'll add some more dimension to the scenes when the Bajoran Military wants to push Sisko out.

Second, if when Opaka said she knew it was her destiny that maybe it was the only way to drive the Bajorans to look upon Sisko even more as the Emissary, and she knew that. (In the first season, he us rarely spoken of that way. It obviously grows much more as time continues.)
Too bad they couldn't have found another way to take Opaka out of the picture. I wonder if they left her not-dead, so they'd have a way to bring her back if what they wanted to do didn't pan out? I feel like they were trying to hedge their bets by not killing her off completely.
 
Star Trek Online brought Opaka back in their DS9 themed expansion by finding a way to disable the thing keeping them on the planet.

They mostly did that so they could write around the fact they made Kira the Kai of Bajor in their game's backstory by replacing her with Opaka lol
 
"The Storyteller"

This episode has two unfolding stories.

Let's start with the A-Story. Bashir and O'Brien are on a Bajoran Colony and through a weird twist of fate, O'Brien becomes their designated Storyteller because he's in the right place at the right time. Then he has to convince them he's not their Storyteller. O'Brien has no idea what he's talking about when he's telling his story. He's just winging it, until the right guy, the one who should really have the job, comes to the rescue. Some people say a lot of early-DS9 episodes could've been TNG episodes... but I think this one could've been a TOS episode. Complete with the silly cloud. Nice locale too. I can't tell if it was location shooting or if they did a really good job with the soundstage to make it look like outdoors, but nice work. The only annoying thing is when Bashir is trying to make small talk with O'Brien. "Do I annoy you?" O'Brien's being polite but I'll say it. "Yes!" You're annoying, Doctor! (At least in the first season. I know he gets better later!) I remembered there was something about Bashir wanting O'Brien to call him "Julian" instead of "Sir", but I forgot that it was in this episode.

Then there's the B-story. A teenage girl, Varis, who's leader of her Bajoran colony has to negotiate with another Bajoran colony and Sisko has to mediate. Varis has to overcompensate because she's worried she won't be taken seriously and is already treated differently by the adults. She's even resistant to talk to Sisko, who wants to help, if she doesn't have to. Jake and Nog befriend Varis because Nog has a crush on her, but they actually become friends, hijinks ensue, and through Jake, Varis learns that she can talk to Sisko, which helps her with the negotiations.

It's not the same thing, because I wasn't a leader of a colony, but I can sympathize with Varis not being taken seriously. For those who don't know, a very long time ago, I was a moderator on this board for six years. I was 22 when I was made a moderator, but even though I wasn't the same age as Varis is here, at first I had to deal some posters who didn't take me seriously because I was half their age. And when I was first posting on bulletin boards, I was 17. I had to stand toe-to-toe with people who'd been arguing about Star Trek longer than I'd been alive. It felt a little intimidating at first.

I liked this episode better than I expected to, and there were things in there I could relate to, so I'm going to give it a 7.

My only complaint, besides Bashir, is Jake's wardrobe. And no, I can't give it a pass just because "It's 1993!" I was in eighth grade when this episode came out, I remember what was in style very well back then (fortunately and unfortunately), so I can say Jake's outfits didn't look too great even back then!
 
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Looks like I'm on track to be finished with DS9 Season 1 in a week. I've made some changes to my plans for how I'm going to do things. After Season 1, I'm going to go back and review the key TNG episodes that I view as Proto-DS9. And we're only looking at them from a DS9 angle.
  • "The Wounded" for the Cardassians.
  • "Ensign Ro" for the Bajorans.
  • "The Host" for the Trill.
  • "The Last Outpost" and "The Price" in a combo review for the Ferengi. There's a reason I'm combining them into one review: I want to look at their first appearance in general, and then look at when they were changed into being just annoying businessmen after it became crystal clear they wouldn't work out as true adversaries.
  • "Chain of Command" because actually seeing what Cardassians do to their prisoners dovetails right into the beginning of Season 2 and having to rescue Li Nalas.
When we get to DS9 Season 2, the only TNG episodes I'm adding are "Journey's End" and "Preemptive Strike" (when we reach them in airdate order) because I think they serve as good bookends to "The Maquis".

Then that's the last TNG I'm reviewing until right before Worf shows up in Season 4. Then I'll review "Sins of the Father", "Reunion", and both parts of "Redemption" before heading into "The Way of the Warrior".

With my new plan, when there are B5 episodes between seasons of DS9, I'll start those posts with something from DS9 that doesn't necessarily have to do with any one particular episode, or I'll give another look to an episode someone disagreed with me about. Then, in spoiler code, I'll have the review for a B5 episode underneath.

When we have DS9 and B5 seasons both going on (by airdate order), I'll still start a post with the DS9 episode and put the B5 episode in afterwards in spoiler code.

EDITED TO ADD: For DS9 Season 2, I'm on the fence about adding in TOS's "Mirror, Mirror" and the three TOS Klingon episodes... Wait a minute. Who am I kidding? Of course I'm adding in the TOS Episodes! :p

The three TOS Klingon episodes will go right before "Blood Oath", with all four episodes in one post. "Mirror, Mirror" will go right before "Crossover", with both episodes also in one post.

So, to break this down on the Trek end, if you just want a list, it's looking like:

DS9 Season 1 + "Birthright" + Proto-DS9 Episodes
DS9 Season 2 + TNG Maquis Episodes + TOS Episodes
DS9 Season 3
DS9 Season 4 + TNG Klingon Trilogy
DS9 Season 5
DS9 Season 6
DS9 Season 7
"What We Left Behind" Special
 
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"Progress"

The episode is called "Progress", but it doesn't seem to be in any hurry to get to where it has to go. Sisko represents what has to be done. Kira represents the not being in a hurry. The old man, Mullibok, and the people living with him, are the obstacle to progress. This reminds me of people being forced to relocate because of a big business wanting to build there or the government wanting to build there. Mullibok gets Kira to really appreciate what they had built... before she torches it.

I feel like the Jake/Nog subplot where we see Nog trying to be a businessman was padding because the A-story was either too thin or too short. Not a complaint, but an observation. I liked seeing Nog try to wheel-and-deal, and Jake trying to steer him in different directions and try to make him think about more than just latinum.

I'll give this episode a 7. It's too thin to go any higher.
 
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I'd actually rank "PROGRESS" an 8 or 9. The story might be a little thin, but the performances were outstanding. Another turning point for Kira, realizing she has to move forward (or 'progress') from her previous life to hdr current role.
I agree. I think "Progress" was a terrific episode, with great acting by Visitor, and Brian Keith (Mullibok). This was way better than "The Storyteller" in my opinion.
 
I feel like Kai Opaka was left behind in an Unmoderated Internet Comments Section. This doesn't seem like destiny, it seems like being condemned to Hell.
The weirdest thing here is Opaka's complete disappearance from the show after. Yes, she's stuck on a remote planet on the other side of the wormhole but she's still technically alive and given her authority on Bajor, I can't imagine Bajorans not trying to visit that planet and ask Opaka about the events going on (especially after Destiny, where a permanent trans-quadrant communication line was created)
 
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The weirdest thing here is Opaka's complete disappearance from the show after. Yes, she's stuck on a remote planet on the other side of the wormhole but she's still technically alive and given her authority on Bajor, I can't imagine Bajorans not trying to visit that planet and ask Opaka about the events going on (especially after Destiny, where a permanent trans-quadrant communication line was created)
Well, we don't really know what Our Heroes told the Bajorans when they got back.
 
I'm going to change my rating for "Move Along Home". I want to re-re-watch it first though, but -- upon thinking about it -- It's not worse than "Q-Less".

One thing I forgot to mention about "Progress" that's stuck with me. I was literally thinking about it yesterday. The two people living with Mullibok, who can't speak. I was imagining Cardassians ripping their tongues out. It's never said outright, but that's what had to have happened. Very clever saying it without saying it. They all know how brutal the Cardassians are. No need to go into detail. It also feels like something a movie would've done during the Hays Code Era (from 1934 to 1968, before the MPAA) to explain something too graphic without going into detail. Everything was implied. Or, if it was happening, the camera knew when to cut away and let the audience fill in anything gruesome with their own imagination.

No wonder they hate anyone in a uniform, if it's the Cardassians they had to deal with.
 
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"If Wishes Were Horses"

This is the episode I thought "The Storyteller" was going to be. Memory plays tricks on you sometimes. It took seven minutes to reach the opening credits, which reminds me of something that happens frequently in New Trek (at least in Discovery and Picard, I don't know about the rest), but it was necessary because we needed to see what each character's fantasy was before Rumpelstiltskin shows up, who makes for the perfect character to show before going into the intro! It reminds me of "Shore Leave", from TOS, where McCoy and Sulu see Alice and the Rabbit from Alice in Wonderland.

Rumpelstiltskin, Buck Bokai, Julian's Fantasy Jadzia, Winter on the Promenade, Odo helping an Osterhage along, everyone seeing whatever they imagine, including winning at the Dabo Table at Quark's... definitely "Shore Leave"! With a touch of "Where No One Has Gone Before" from TNG, complete with imaginary fire in the corridor. While we're at it, a little bit of TOS's "I, Mudd" too. Quark and his imaginary women are like Harry Mudd and his android women. And finally Odo's imagination: Quark in a holding cell!

So far, so good, but then... As the DS9 crew try to solve this, we're hit with a bunch of late-TNG Era technobabble. This is around the 35-minute mark and I started to zone out. The sonic wallpaper music that '90s Trek is notorious for doesn't help either. I liked the fantasy stuff better. Especially when it was character-driven. Three solid minutes of technobabble with the background muzak. Did I say late-TNG level? I was wrong. It's Voyager level! Please make it stop!

Luckily it finally does stop. Then we get a scene with Bashir healing an injured Fantasy Bashir with Buck Bokai helping it. Speaking of which, I liked the scene between Sisko and Bokai earlier in the episode where Bokai says he remembered Sisko from the holodeck crowd. In that moment Sisko and Bokai connected with each other. As Bashir heals Fantasy Jadzia, they connect too.

Eventually Sisko figures out that everything they're experiencing on the station, including the station being in danger, is something they only believe because they expected it. If they stop believing it, it won't happen, because it isn't real. This part reminds me of TOS's "Spectre of the Gun" when Spock (through a mind-meld) convinces Kirk, McCoy, and Scotty that the bullets aren't real in a staged version of the fight at the O.K. Corral. Then all the imagination figments disappear.

Then we find out the imaginary characters were actually alien lifeforms who've been observing Humanity as Sisko has one last scene with "Buck Bokai" and they talk about the power of imagination.

Hmmm. This is less a DS9 as DS9 episode and more of a "DS9 as TOS and TNG episode". It's not bad, but it's not playing to the series' strengths. Nevertheless, I liked it enough, so I'll go with another 7.
 
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"If Wishes Were Horses"

This is the episode I thought "The Storyteller" was going to be. Memory plays tricks on you sometimes. It took seven minutes to reach the opening credits, which reminds me of something that happens frequently in New Trek (at least in Discovery and Picard, I don't know about the rest), but it was necessary because we needed to see what each character's fantasy was before Rumpelstiltskin shows, who makes for the perfect character to show before going into the intro! It reminds me of "This Side of Paradise", from TOS, where McCoy and Sulu see Alice and the Rabbit from Alice in Wonderland.

Rumpelstiltskin, Buck Bokai, Julian's Fantasy Jadzia, Winter on the Promenade, Odo helping an Osterhage along everyone seeing whatever they imagine, including winning at the Dabo Table at Quark's... definitely "This Side of Paradise"! With a touch of "Where No One Has Gone Before" from TNG, complete with imaginary fire in the corridor. While we're at it, a little bit of TOS's "I, Mudd" too. Quark and his imaginary women are like Harry Mudd and his android women. And finally Odo's imagination: Quark in a holding cell!

So far, so good, but then... As the DS9 crew try to solve this, we're hit with a bunch of late-TNG Era technobabble. This is around the 35-minute mark and I started to zone out. The sonic wallpaper music that '90s Trek is notorious for doesn't help either. I liked the fantasy stuff better. Especially when it was character-driven. Three solid minutes of technobabble with the background muzak. Did I say late-TNG level? I was wrong. It's Voyager level! Please make it stop!

Luckily it finally does stop. Then we get a scene with Bashir healing an injured Fantasy Bashir with Buck Bokai helping it. Speaking of which, I liked the scene between Sisko and Bokai earlier in the episode where Bokai says he remembered Sisko from the holodeck crowd. In that moment Sisko and Bokai connected with each other. As Bashir heals Fantasy Jadzia, they connect too.

Eventually Sisko figures out that everything they're experiencing on the station, including the station being in danger, is something they only believe because they expected it. If they stop believing it, it won't happen, because it isn't real. This part reminds me of TOS's "Spectre of the Gun" when Spock (through a mind-meld) convinces Kirk, McCoy, and Scotty that the bullets aren't real in a staged version of the fight at the O.K. Corral. Then all the imagination figments disappear.

Then we find out the imaginary characters were actually alien lifeforms who've been observing Humanity as Sisko has one last scene with "Buck Bokai" and they talk about the power of imagination.

Hmmm. This is less a DS9 as DS9 episode and more of a "DS9 as TOS and TNG episode". It's not bad, but it's not playing to the series' strengths. Nevertheless, I liked it enough, so I'll go with another 7.
McCoy and the rabbit... you are thinking of "SHORE LEAVE", not "THIS SIDE OF PARADISE".


While this could have been a TNG episode, it fits better on DS9. And I believe Sisko's baseball first appears here.

I always liked this one. I probably give it a 7, too.
 
Fun as a fantasy. The ending where they are alien creatures and fufilling fantasies is their way of making first contact just seemed weird.
 
"The Forsaken"

This episode is the exact opposite of "Q-Less". Unlike Q, Luaxana Troi fits in on DS9, and I'd say she fits in even better here than on TNG. In my opinion. Here, we get to see her as something besides Troi's mom. I also see more between Luaxana and Odo than I do between Luaxana and Picard. Luaxana even has a reason to be attracted to Odo besides his resembling a man: he comes to Luaxana's rescue when something is stolen from her and figured out how did it ingeniously. Later on, in the turboshaft, when Luaxana and Odo end up stuck in the turboshaft, she's more understanding of Odo than of any of the crew on TNG, and she's not bothering everyone on the show. So, like I said, I think she works better on DS9.

Then there are the other Ambassadors. Bashir is stuck dealing with them, even though he wishes he wasn't. In a way, it makes sense that every junior officer would get an assignment like this at some point. Later on in their career, who knows when they might end up in a similar situation? And then they'll have some experience dealing with it. The Ambassadors are pushy and entitled, but it works for comedic effect.

And then there's the computer. I hate difficult computers that make even the simplest, most basic tasks impossible and have you shooting through all kinds of hoops only to get you nowhere. So, I completely got it when O'Brien referred to the station's computer as his "arch enemy". "On the Enterprise, dealing with computer was like dancing a waltz. Here it's like a wrestling match!" Then some weird technobabble thing makes the computer not only cooperative but also needy. Until they figure out what's wrong and isolate the problem.

This episode was a lot better than I expected it to be. I'll give it a 9.

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A few other items. All having to do with the camera work:
  • I loved the exterior shots of DS9 in this episode. There were a lot of new ones, with plenty of motion.

  • We get to see the perspective of being inside the turboshaft and facing it to the front. Which means we could see what it looks like as it travels up, down, and across between decks.

  • This is the first episode where we get to see Ops from the point-of-view of the ceiling facing down. It gave me a much better sense of where everything is in relation to each other. Normally, it's a lot harder for me to get a sense of everything in Ops, as opposed to the bridges of Federation starships.
I have to check the credits to see who directed this episode. Les Landau. Thanks for giving us those shots! I also have to give a shout out to the DP, Marvin Rush, for pulling off that shot of Ops from overhead!
 
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