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Re-Watching DS9

"The Abandoned" is definitely not my favorite episode... but it does further illustrate both the Dominion's scary-sophisticated technology, and their truly monstrous nature. Living creatures that are bred to worship the Founders and kill remorselessly are best described as abominations.
 
The Jem'Hadar are among my favorite races. Episodes like "TO THE DEATH" and "ROCKS AND SHOALS" shows a complexity to them that makes you feel for them but also makes you not want to be in the same room with them... at the same time.

And they are the perfect soldiers.
 
One thing I think back to immediately is "Encounter at Farpoint". I wonder if any of the writers had this in the back of their minds? "Rapid progress, to where Humans learned to control their military with drugs."

I doubted the idea even originated from there, so I looked up drug use in real militaries. I dug up some interesting things. The British Military used cocaine pills until 1916. And the military in Germany was testing the idea of having soldiers use cocaine, right before the end of World War II.
 
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One thing I think back to immediately is "Encounter at Farpoint". I wonder if any of the writers had this in the back of their minds? "Rapid progress, to where Humans learned to control their military with drugs."

I doubted the idea even originated from there, so I looked up drug use in real militaries. I dug up some interesting things. The British Military used cocaine pills until 1916. And the military in Germany was testing the idea of having soldiers use cocaine, right before the end of World War II.

Actually, methamphetamine was standard equipment in the Wehrmacht during ww2, and also common among civilians, as it was available as otc drug "Pervitin".

Some even claimed the Blitzkriegs wouldn't have been possible without it.
 
Tubi has "The Gathering" listed as "Season 1 Episode 23". It's not, but I'm going to re-watch it and re-review it anyway. While I was watching "The Gathering" before, my mind was way too overloaded with taking everything about Babylon 5 in. I took nine pages' worth of notes at the time. Not an exaggeration. Now, I'm not going to have that problem. So, I can look at "The Gathering" as just "The Gathering" itself, instead of "Oh my God! I have to learn everything about Babylon 5! Do I have their names right? Do I have the races right? How similar and not similar is this to DS9? Am I even going to sound like I know what I'm talking about?!" Too many points of distraction the first time around.
 
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There are two versions of the movie, the original with the Stewart Copeland soundtrack and the 1998 special edition with the Christopher Franke score, so maybe it'll be possible for you to give the one you haven't seen a try. There are a lot more differences between them than just the music.
 
One thing I think back to immediately is "Encounter at Farpoint". I wonder if any of the writers had this in the back of their minds? "Rapid progress, to where Humans learned to control their military with drugs."

I doubted the idea even originated from there, so I looked up drug use in real militaries. I dug up some interesting things. The British Military used cocaine pills until 1916. And the military in Germany was testing the idea of having soldiers use cocaine, right before the end of World War II.
 
The Abandoned - As a parent, I don't think a 16-year-old dating a 20-year-old is a good thing either, but my impulse would be to let it play out for a while, as long as it's not abusive. Chances are excellent that one or the other of them will break it off on their own, and the 16-year-old will learn more from that experience than they would from me saying "you're not allowed".
 
There are two versions of the movie, the original with the Stewart Copeland soundtrack and the 1998 special edition with the Christopher Franke score, so maybe it'll be possible for you to give the one you haven't seen a try. There are a lot more differences between them than just the music.
I saw the original version before. This time, I'll be watching the Special Edition.

Once I finish B5 Season 1 and wrap up every DS9 episode that came out in 1994, I'm taking a bit of a break in the lead-up to Section 31.
 
I binged-watched the last three episodes of B5 Season 1 and the first episode of B5 Season 2 earlier last week but didn't review them. I was on a roll and didn't want to stop. I was going to review them, but then I never got back to it. I'd felt sluggish all week. There were a lot of things I wanted to do that I didn't, not just this. I have a bad foot that's been acting up more than usual and it's affected my ability to sleep. So, I'd been tired all week. My frame of mind was, "I don't feel like doing anything!" But now here we are, it's Monday, and this is me playing catch up! Bear in mind I'll actually be watching these next few B5 episodes a second time.

"Babylon Squared" (B5 S1E20)

This episode starts off feeling like a cross between "The Deadly Years" (TOS) with the 30-year-old pilot dying from old age, and "Yesterday's Enterprise" (TNG) when Babylon 4 re-appears. That's where the similarities to those Star Trek episodes ends, and then it goes into a different direction.

The small moments make for some nice touches. The prank Garabaldi and Sinclair pulled on Ivanova at the beginning of the episode. The stupid question about, "Which do you do first? Do fasten then zip, or zip then fasten?" Not something I thought about before. Hold on. Let me think... Fasten then zip. Where were we? Babylon 4!

When Delenn is present among the Gray Council, they say the Time of Mourning is over after 10 years, and the Minbari say it's time to choose another leader. Interesting that they say they want her to lead and yet it sounds to me more like they're leading her. They have everything planned out for her, they assume she'll say yes, they pressure her into it, and try to make it look bad if she doesn't. She would be the "leader" of the Minbari, but she wouldn't be the leader of her life.

I didn't say this before, but now's my opening. Because we have a poster here with the same username, and I've heard some other people say they think Dukat's name was a rip-off, I knew about Dukhat even before I watched Babylon 5. Not the character, just his name, but I'd always just assumed he was a character who was alive. (Why wouldn't I think that?) When I first heard earlier in the season that he was already dead and had been dead, I thought, "That can't be right!" But I heard it a few more times, and I guess it is.

I appreciate Delenn standing by her convictions by remaining on Babylon 5 to see if the prophecies about Humanity predicted by Valin come true. Delenn also says Humanity has a great potential that Humans themselves don't even realize. This a point where Star Trek and Babylon 5 have something in common: the belief that Humans are better than what they might appear to be.

When Sinclair and Garabaldi board Babylon 4, enter the weirdness where time keeps shifting, characters hullicinate about the future, and some weird alien guy named Zathras sees another guy in a space suit emerge and say, "That is the one!" Then everyone on Babylon 4 is rushing to get off before it disappears in space/time again. So now, I'm getting flashes of "The Tholian Web" where the TOS Defiant was phasing in and out, even though, once again, the execution is different. It gets more and more dangerous, Zathras gets pinned down by a metal beam, Sinclair wants to rescue him, then the alien tells him to go because he has a destiny.

Humanity has a destiny. Sinclair has a destiny. Delenn is committed to see what that destiny is. These may seem like seperate A and B stories, but they're definitely connected. Everything calls towards a destiny. So they have to converge. Then the weirdest thing. The guy in the space suit takes off his helmet and it's Sinclair as an older man! Like I said, I've seen up to the first episode of Season 2 already. I know Sinclair isn't coming as the main character but this tells me his story isn't done. Tying everything back together, Delenn is told by a Minbari friend that the Council won't welcome her back on their homeworld but has a sense of dread about what's coming in the future and wishes Delenn luck in the times ahead.

Summing Up: I preferred the Delenn side of the story, but the Babylon 4 side of the story was just as interesting in its own right, and it piqued my interested about what's coming up. The episode though, is mainly setup. I give it a 7.

"Civil Defense" will be up tonight/overnight.
 
There was a book that critiqued B5 and asked rather astutely why the pilot couldn't come up with a better message for Our Heroes than scratching "B4" into his belt buckle. :p
 
That belt buckle thing was kind of absurd, especially as they find out about the station themselves 30 seconds later and it was entirely unnecessary.

I've done the research, and you are the only person in all of recorded history to ever give Babylon Squared the same grade as TKO and Grail! This is often considered to be one of the top 3 for the season, along with Signs and Portents and the finale. Though the story doesn't work for everyone. I was watching it recently with a friend who's going through the show for the first time as well, and he was so distracted that he missed the ending with Sinclair taking off the helmet!

The episode gives us the second prophecy that the station will explode and this time we learn that it's the heroes that blow it up themselves. But JMS couldn't even predict that his lead actor wouldn't be able to continue in the role, so what does he know about the future? Valen made this prophecy thing look easy, but he didn't have to adapt to the realities of TV production.

Time is very distorted around this story, as in the original airing order (the one you're following) Delenn's people use the Triluminary to steal Bramner's body in Legacies before she receives it at the end of this episode. There are other lines in Legacies ("what's a chrysalis?") and TKO ("watch your back") that hint that those episodes were supposed to come right before the season finale, but you already know about that now.

Incidentally, here in Britain they aired TKO during the gap between season 1 and 2, so it could get worse!
 
But he had enough time to scratch something into his belt buckle, versus recording a message?
One possibility is he couldn't talk because the distortion aged his vocal cords so badly that he couldn't speak. (Or at least coherently.)

I do remember there was several hours time between his arrival at the distortion and when he returned, due to the distance at sublight speeds. Maybe his recorder was not functional at that time, so he did the only thing he could at the moment, which was mark his belt.

They said the hull of the starfury was fine and undamaged, but no mention of the internals like the transmitter. Maybe it was offline due to the tachyon burst at the time he was exposed, and before it came back online, he was dead.

(I know it seems like I'm reaching, but I never saw a problem with the B4 scratched on the buckle. Considering what that pilot must have felt when he was dying, it kind of adds a bit of unseen terror when you think about suddenly being aged 60 years in a matter of moments.)
 
I've done the research, and you are the only person in all of recorded history to ever give Babylon Squared the same grade as TKO and Grail! This is often considered to be one of the top 3 for the season, along with Signs and Portents and the finale. Though the story doesn't work for everyone.
I was watching it recently with a friend who's going through the show for the first time as well, and he was so distracted that he missed the ending with Sinclair taking off the helmet!
I aim to keep things interesting. :devil: :devil: :devil:

I'm re-rating everything for Babylon 5 Season 1 soon anyway, so take the current ratings with a grain of salt. Some of the previous ratings I gave, I no longer agree with upon reflection. As far as "Babylon Squared"...

The Delenn part of "Babylon Squared" was great. An episode with just that and going further in-depth into the Minbari, I would've given it an 8. It could've even been a 9 with the added depth. But the Babylon 4 part of the episode came off as goofy in certain parts.

The difference between "TKO" and "Babylon Squared" for me is that the boxing part of "TKO" is meant to be goofy/silly, so I'm not bothered by it. That's what they were aiming for. The Babylon 4 side of "Babylon Squared" wasn't meant to be goofy, yet part of it came off that way, which makes it worse. The station time-shifting is fine. But then we have Sinclair and Garabaldi going off in weird times and places and it feels like Voyager-level craziness, without even the technobabble VOY would have to explain it away. And I have a hard time taking Zarthras seriously. From the makeup to way he speaks. It just felt silly.

Then there's Major Krantz. He did nothing for me. He's no Rachel Garrett, his counterpart in "Yesterday's Enterprise". And he pales next to Sinclair as well. Right down to it's Sinclair who gives B4 a last look instead of Krantz.

One other thing "TKO" had in its favor IMO was Ivanova dealing with the death of a parent, and someone trying to tell her how to grieve, and since I have a dead parent and had to deal with similar nonsense from people who also meant well but didn't know how to back off, it's something I can relate to. It spoke to me in a way that other people are lucky if it didn't speak to them that way.

Considering the pilot was dead before he arrived back to B5, he might not have had enough time to write anything else before he died.

That was my take as well.
 
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"Civil Defense"

I loved this episode when I was 15. 30 years later, I still do. Every now and then, I run into someone who says they're afraid of AI. Do you know what I tell them? This is what I say: "I'm not afraid of Artificial Intelligence, I'm afraid of Artificial Stupidity." The Cardassian computer on Terok Nor is a prime example. They're not designed to be intelligent. They're designed to do what they're programmed to do and only understand what's within the parameters of that programming. We see it here in this episode. We'll see it again in "Dreadnought" (VOY). Cardassian computers are stubborn, unimaginative, and always assume the worst. Which makes the computer on Terok Nor deadly when it thinks the Bajoran workers are trying to overtake the station.

I call it the Terok Nor computer because that's what it thinks it is. ;) Just one trip-up and the DS9 computer went away and became the Terok Nor computer. And just like every difficult computer, every time you try to figure out a work-around, the difficult computer blocks you. Every time you try something; it triggers something else. Deadlier and deadlier with each step. I loved it just as much as Garak when the program even turned on Dukat after he visited, leaving him stuck there with them.

This episode takes a cue from "Disaster" (TNG) in that we see different pairings. Sisko, O'Brien, and Jake down in Ore Processing. Odo and Quark in Odo's office. Everyone else in Ops. "Civil Defense" doesn't do unusual pairings like "Disaster" does, but we get to find out more about pre-existing character dynamics which makes it worth the trade-off. The highlights are finding about Garak's history dealing with Dukat and his father (makes me want to know more!) and what Odo really thinks of Quark.

This is also the first time Dukat postures in front of Kira, and Garak calls him out on trying to sweep Kira off her feet. I think this is the point where the writers wanted to start developing a rivalry with Dukat for Kira that was distinct from Sisko's rivalry with him and that was more personal than just Bajorans vs. Cardassians. I tried so hard not to think of what happens later as Kira tells Dukat she'll destroy the station before she ever gives it back to the Cardassians. It adds even more context to just how much Kira must've hated the position she was in during the opening six episodes of the sixth season.

Anyway, the less dependent we are on computers, the better. Specifically because of what might go wrong. And I appreciated everyone's ingenuity in trying to figure out a way to first outsmart and then bypass the computer.

The more I type about this episode, the more i like it. Always a good sign. Overall, I give this episode a 10.

One more thing: Jake working with O'Brien. I'm wondering if that's the equivalent of a part-time job for Jake? He's 16 and working age, so I can see it.
 
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"CIVIL DEFENSE" has always been one of my favorites of the entire series. It utilizes everyone very well, and the tension and pacing increases incrementally but not too much for each round. (It's why I love TNG's "The Arsenal of Freedom" so much, too.)

I probably would have ranked this a 9. But add Dukat AND Garak together? That was icing on the cake. So it gets a 10. The execution was pretty much flawless.


(And I completely agree with you about computers running so much... the dependence on them for everything will be our downfall, if an AI doesn't kill us first.)
 
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