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Rank the Terminator films

From one of the writers of T3 and T4...

On T2:
Eight years later I stood in line at the Cinerama Dome for the opening night of "T2: Judgment Day." For all the cool digital morphs, the movie was a sprawling mess, bloated and self-important. On multiple levels, it was a betrayal of the original. I couldn't stand it.

When brought back to write T4:
The dynamics of the war with the machines seemed dull to us, as did John Connor, whom we kept a peripheral character. (If you think the character is dull, then write him as more interesting.)

http://johnbrancato.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-to-beat-twice-dead-horse.html

It's quite an interesting read. Part behind-the-scenes info, part "I'm a good writer, all the bad movies I've written are the fault of other people!" essay.

Funny thing to note, one aspect of the T3 script they first whipped up...

See, after the first two pairs of terminators were sent back from 2029 for the first two movies, JC revealed himself to be evil-- a Skynet deep-cover agent. He destroyed/will destroy the human resistance from within.

They kept trying to make this happen. First in Salvation (same writers), where Marcus was to receive John's face and then kill everyone. (Thankfully changed when leaked and the internet became outraged enough to scare the filmmakers.) And then in Genisys (different writers) where John becomes a Terminator.
 
^ Wow, fascinating blog post; I hadn't known of that before. To be clear, Brancato (I believe and will assume it's indeed him) is only dismissive of T2; he clearly respects T1, which is a valid (if wrong) perspective. And it does make sense, I suppose, that the writers of The Game would come up with an absurdly convoluted plot for T3. It sounds as though they really tried to bring a unique spin to the franchise, but were utterly wrong fits for the assignment from the start.

That crap made it all the way to filming, Helena Bonham Carter actually did shoot her Skynet scenes with Marcus before they abandoned the third act.
I fail to see why Carter showing up in person is any dumber than appearing as a visual AI and having a Skype conversation with Marcus...
 
I fail to see why Carter showing up in person is any dumber than appearing as a visual AI and having a Skype conversation with Marcus...
It's not dumber, it's equally dumb. :)

But I hate it more because it was part of a much larger chunk of movie, the aforementioned "Skynet nuked the planet to save humanity/hybrid Terminators living in a nice Pleasantville town/Marcus gets John's face, kills everyone" third act.
 
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