Poll Rank the Picard Seasons
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I agree with this assessment.
Oh oh, I want to rank all the shows combined now.
- Disco S2 - Dumb as hell but rarely boring.
- Picard S3 - Despite its issues it builds to proper payoffs.
- Disco S1 - I'm not keen on the Klingons or Terrans, but it kept things interesting.
- Picard S1 - Nepenthe's doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
- Disco S5 - Love the adventurous tone, but the Moll and L'ak stuff drags it down.
- Disco S4 - Proper sci-fi ideas, really unnatural dialogue.
- Disco S3 - Started great, then drove right off a space cliff.
- Picard S2 - I enjoyed this more than most perhaps, but c'mon.
- SNW S2 - I really liked three stories, the rest not so much.
- SNW S1 - So traditional that it has the traditionally weak season 1.
I still say PS2 was the second-best live action season of Star Trek produced post-2005. You could do a lot with the shot material if you managed some editing and ADR to tighten things up.
PS1 has much lower lows.
Discovery makes Discovery look really, really bad.
I'm not 100% sure I agree totally with that, although probably pretty close. As much as I do enjoy PIC S2, I think S1 was better. I found PIC as a whole to be generally "Pretty good" and don't really see these crazy lows people talk about, especially in comparison to other live action Trek of the era. PIC S1 is by no means perfect, but it's good enough that i'm also willing to let alot of the bad slide, which I don't even think is that bad to begin with.
Going total live action... I would probably go...
PIC S3
PIC S1
SNW S1
PIC S2
SNW S2
And then idk. Discovery exists.
I'll give to the first season of SNW. It was overall pretty solid, to the point that if nuTrek had launched as THAT instead of Discovery, I would probably be overall alot more on board. Discovery caused like, soul damage and actively made me less interest in Star Trek overall.
i'm sorry to say this but not even picard season 3 save this series. first its misleading since season 3 have nothing to do with 1 and 2. the only thing is picard himself. each season has its own contained story. which the first and the second have really terrible ones and are boring. and the third season is just meh at best. just serve as a reunion for the cast and thats it. its only good because its next to bad and terrible (1 and 2). i dident even finished it. after episode 8 and the "big reveal" about the borg (shocking) and the female changling vilian death. i have no motivation to watch it anymore. every episode i just force myself over and over and over. and it was really REALLY hard in season 1. now its a little less hard but its still terrible.
i watch ds9 right now and dident finished it. but if they decided to go with the dominion story they really should have at least cast one DS9 actor.
i watch ds9 right now and dident finished it. but if they decided to go with the dominion story they really should have at least cast one DS9 actor.
*waves in Worf*
aside from him because he was mainly a tng character.
But his DS9 knowledge was big part early on.
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I feel like I must be the only one who mostly liked all three seasons of Picard. Each is about a different aspect of Picard’s life, usually in the context of healing. Season 1 is about him simply taking his life back; Season 2 is about healing his past (by healing the past); Season 3 is about him finally finding fatherhood (and arguably that’s doubly symbolized by his old “family” being regathered). Sure, each is different from the others, and has something different to offer; I have no problem with that.
Do I wish that the Season 1-2 characters had stuck around? Sure. But I don’t find any of the seasons bad (despite, sure, significant chunks of cheese in the latter two; that’s hardly unusual in any Trek production).
Do I wish that the Season 1-2 characters had stuck around? Sure. But I don’t find any of the seasons bad (despite, sure, significant chunks of cheese in the latter two; that’s hardly unusual in any Trek production).
Apologies if I've said this before, but I think there may be some irony to the fact that S3 brings back the characters of TNG but fails to bring back the spirit of TNG. The character interactions are there, but where's the exploration (whether internally or externally?) or sense of wonder? As much as the leaning into nostalgia irked me in S3, I think I would have been more kind to the season and more forgiving of the fridging of most of the earlier characters if the show had done more to make me remember the good times beyond, "Hey everyone; here's the characters you love!"
i cant even finish season 3. i forced myself through episode 9 and cant watch 10. the only reason i even watched season 1 and suffered and then watched season 3 is because i want to see the red letter media videos on it. but my god, the ending shtick of season 3
with the visions of the nepo baby being the borg and then all young people turning into borg drones, my god, this was so incredibly stupid and so incredibly ANTI every star trek there is. this is something out of a cheap show for teenagers. not star trek. and this show dosent even feel like TNG at all. it has all the characters, but their dialouge and motivations does not align at all with any of their characters in tng.
Thing is, Picard isn’t about exploring/sense of wonder* in the TNG sense; it’s about exploring Jean-Luc Picard. That’s its focus, which to my mind is fine, since it says so right there on the tin.
*It does have some, mainly in Season 1, and Season 2’s arc is effectively about finally connecting with a formerly implacable alien (healing, again). Season 3 definitely isn’t about that, which is part of why it rings falsely when they pause for a pious “to seek out new life” moment; that belongs in a different show.
*It does have some, mainly in Season 1, and Season 2’s arc is effectively about finally connecting with a formerly implacable alien (healing, again). Season 3 definitely isn’t about that, which is part of why it rings falsely when they pause for a pious “to seek out new life” moment; that belongs in a different show.
I also like all three seasons but stopped regularly posting in this forum. This is my third post in the PIC Forum in all of 2025, so far. I agree with how you look at each of the three seasons. I like each for different reasons.
EDIT: While it's true I ranked PIC Season 2 last, I still liked it. Just less than 1 and 3.
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If it's about exploring Jean-Luc Picard, then I might argue that S3 sabotaged if not betrayed that by trying to recreate the past instead of exploring the 'now'. Other than his reunion with Ro and his relations with Crusher (which I don't think were handled very well); I don't readily recall his interactions with his old TNG homies doing much to explore the character.
As I know I've said before, I really hate the implication that you hit a best point in your life and after that the best you can do is try to recreate the past instead of seeking out new experiences.
Except that Picard wasn't trying to recreate the past. When Beverly reached out to Picard, he went to Riker. Who he still knows in 2401. Riker has connections to the Titan, which is why he sought him out. He knew he'd need a ship to help Beverly and was looking for any way he could do that. "It's not what you know, it's who you know." So, as far as Picard knew, he was going on the Titan with Riker to rescue Beverly.
He didn't plan on stringing together the entire former Enterprise-D crew. That happened as the plot unfolded and Geordi himself unveiled the restored Enterprise-D. Picard didn't consciously decide at the outset, "I'm going to re-create my past!" The story mechanizations led to that since Paramount mandated a TNG Reunion, but Picard himself wasn't seeking a TNG Reunion.
I'd say Picard was probably closer to the Enterprise-D/E crew than the Stargazer crew and whoever he knew during the Romulus Evacuation Days when he was an Admiral. It also seems like he mostly kept to himself afterwards, except for living with Laris and Zhabon on the Vineyard. So, process of elimination, he'll look back more fondly on his Enterprise days than the surrounding periods of his life. For the character it makes sense.
To narrow it down further: Picard's time on the Enterprise-D reflects what he thinks Starfleet should be and what he thinks should be its ideals better than his time on the Enterprise-E, the latter of which was during the Dominion War and its Aftermath. The D was also more of a ship of exploration that was built with peacetime in mind. As opposed to the E, which was built to be more battle-ready as the times were rapidly changing into something a lot less peaceful.
[Speaking from personal experience, there are certain parts of my life that I like better than others. I'm hoping for better parts still to come but, if I live to be in my 90s (which Picard is) then I'd probably think all the best parts already happened. I can imagine how someone who's that age could think that way. Not that I think Picard actually does. See what I say below.]
And if Picard is exploring the character of Picard, then his time on the Enterprise is a major part of his life. I'd say getting together the Enterprise crew was a focus of Picard Season 3, but the main focus, what it was really about is Picard and Beverly, and him finding out about Jack, all of which is nothing but new for Picard. No, I'm not counting the fake-out that was "Bloodlines" where he thought he had a son but really didn't. And then, of course, everything Picard passed on to Jack: good and bad.
EDITED TO ADD: At least one thing Picard is looking forward to in the future is getting to know Jack better. Things were left nebulous with Laris. And Patrick Stewart himself wants Picard to have a woman in his life he finally settles down with. So, there's plenty for Picard to look forward to both in Picard Season 3 and after. Both as a father and with whatever relationships he forms in the future.
A large part of this is also why I'd say Patrick Stewart wanted to do a follow-up Picard Movie. Regardless of what you might think of the idea, it reinforces that he thinks Picard still had other things to look forward to. Whether that ever materializes on-screen in the future or not.
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Season 1 touched upon Picard's life in the 20 years since Nemesis ended, including a little of his time as an Admiral before he resigned.
Season 2 touched upon Picard's childhood, gave a tip of the hat to the Stargazer, and looked at some of his family history.
Season 3 finally looks at Picard's time on the Enterprise, what happened after the last time he was with Beverly, and the consequences of what happened when he was assimilated, which IMO was the most pivotal mission of his time on the Enterprise that also left the longest-lasting emotional scars.
So, we get a little of everything from Picard's life over the course of the three seasons, and how those things caught up with him.
Season 2 touched upon Picard's childhood, gave a tip of the hat to the Stargazer, and looked at some of his family history.
Season 3 finally looks at Picard's time on the Enterprise, what happened after the last time he was with Beverly, and the consequences of what happened when he was assimilated, which IMO was the most pivotal mission of his time on the Enterprise that also left the longest-lasting emotional scars.
So, we get a little of everything from Picard's life over the course of the three seasons, and how those things caught up with him.
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