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Rank the Odds

But if there's one thing the Trek films have going for them, they pretty much all have fantastic scores (except IV, I would argue).
If only SOMEONE else had done the music...:scream: The best music in the movie was the song the punk was playing on the bus.:vulcan:

Yeah.

That said, the main theme is alright. If very unStarTrek. But then, TVH was a bit of a one off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzt_ZbNQOk

Still, compare that to the title music of VI, and it couldn't feel more lacking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0yiiivbJFU

I can understand where you both are coming from; I guess it can be argued that the film was after the very sour-noted III and II, so IV was to be very light-hearted....and the music was needed to reflect that.
 
Okay, let's see here...

Star Trek
Insurrection
Generations
The Search for Spock
The Final Frontier
The Motion Picture

Almost exactly reverse order. Hmm.
 
1. The Search For Spock - My personal favorite (the first film I saw as a kid, so please understand me).
2. Generations - A good mixture of everything, very enjoyable and accessible.
3. Star Trek XI - The first hour is nearly perfect, but the other is pretty messed up.
4. The Final Frontier - More like a parody of Star Trek, this one tries too hard to please everyone and therefore falls short. Points for Sybok and the musical score.
5. Insurrection - Kinda uninteresting and forgettable to me. Probably must watch it more to appreciate it.
6. The Motion Picture - A bit over-long and colorless. Revealing the Enterprise scene is brilliant, though.
 
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Generations- Hang the critics! I quite like it.
III- Same here. I think this one is a fine Trek film, and gets overlooked because it's in between II and IV.
XI- Very good, but a lot of exposition as the characters are re-introduced hurts it a bit.
TMP- It's visually stunning with great music, but it does drag on a lot.
Insurrection- Not that bad, to be honest. It feels more like TNG than any of the other TNG films. But it is essentially just a two-part episode, not a feature.
TFF- What more can be said? But it does have some nice character moments.
 
Ranking in order of preference:


1) Star Trek XI - An absolute blast. I loved this movie from start to finish.


2) Star Trek TFF - All heart. I loved the characterizations of the Big Three.


3) Star Trek TMP - Epic scope, solid visuals, great sci-fi.


4) Star Trek TSFS - Good performances all around, some of my favorite lines in this one. Good movie overall.


5) Star Trek GEN - Decent movie, nice to watch when there's nothing else on.


6) Star Trek INS - Meh. The lighting was pretty good. ... I'm sure there's something else I liked.



J.
 
1. ST:TMP- Underrated film. the kind of cerebral script Trek was originally built on. Impressive effects for the time and a good job at making Star Trek look like a film instead of a TV show.

2. ST:GEN- Big drop off from 1 to 2, but Generations was not a bad film only a small film that didn't do justice to the show.

3. STXI- I'll probably have to watch it gain before I make a judgment. I had mixed feelings in the theater and eventually gave it a thumbs down.

4. ST:INS Again a small script and a small nemesis made for a film that wasn't bad, but wasn't worthy of a whole film.

5. ST:SFS- Saw it awhile back after not seeing it for many years. Was actually better than I remember jst nothing that makes it truly stand out.

6.ST:TFF- The only Star Trek movie that can be called a truly awful film. Just an insulting, erratic, abortion of a script.
 
1. The Motion Picture . Spock comes to value his humanity equally with his logical side.

2. The Search for Spock . Kirk has his turn at epiphany and realizes the value of his friends over his ship.

3. Final Frontier . Spock regains the rest of his marbles from Sybok's mind meld and realizes those subtle nuances about feeling fine that he was still missing in ST IV.

4. Generations. Kirk's death. Another reason for Spock to try to reclaim Kohlinhar in the Crucible book.

5. Insurrection . Ok story. Interesting companion piece to Generations for Picard. If "time was a fire that consumes us" for Picard in Generations, it was his ally in Insurrection when he learned how to slow it down to be his companion.

6. Star Trek XI. Nothing really exciting for Spock Prime to do (like reuniting Vulcan with Romulus is now academic). Just another "alternate universe" story like all those mirror ones.
 
Ooh. Tough.

1. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. This is the only one where I'm sure of its place in the ranking. It's an excellent film. It's so good, it deserves to be an even film. It's so fun seeing the crew rebel like this. Each character gets a separate moment to shine. Christopher Lloyd delivers a delicious performance as Commander Kruge, filled with dark humor. This is the best work he's ever done (except for, you know, Back to the Future!). Spock's resurrection feels earned, not a cheap plot device.

2. Star Trek: Generations. Mostly for nostalgia factor. I have fond memories seeing this movie on opening night on my 12th birthday. For me, destroying the Enterprise-D was an even sadder moment than Captain Kirk's death. Dr. Soran is the best of all the odd film villains.

3. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. On any given day this film might rank anywhere between 2nd & 6th place. I do want to be nice to it. It's the only movie that truly takes advantage of the Kirk/Spock/McCoy dynamic. Captain Kirk's confrontation with "God" is classic. The problem is that the production values are so shitty all the way around on this film.

4. Star Trek: Insurrection. It feels more like a 2-hour TV episode than a theatrical feature. However, it's always great to see the Next Generation cast on the big screen. F. Murray Abraham does a fantastic job chewing scenery as Ru'afo.

5. Star Trek (2009). I'm still acclimating myself to this new cast & new timeline. However, no matter how acclimated I get, the plot is still too thin. And enough with the friggin' lens flares! There's more lens flares in this movie than there have been in Michael Bay's entire career.

6. Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Sacrilege, I'm sure. I respect the big ideas this film is trying to convey. However, it's boring as hell and the cast is all too stiff. Stephen Collins is good as Will Decker though.
 
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