Rank problems

[Gabriel]

But there's no evidence of silver pips for enlisted grades. If we're going to say he's wearing something that's he's not, we might as well say he was wearing the DS9 device all along.

It’s just a thought

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

fair point, perhaps he should have been wearing two black pips rather than one then (he does seem to be senior to Gillespie at least). I'd also have no particular issue with the idea that he should have been wearing the Senior Chief patch since Emissary (he still had the pips on the dress uni even after that IIRC).

 

[Gabriel]

fair point, perhaps he should have been wearing two black pips rather than one then (he does seem to be senior to Gillespie at least). I'd also have no particular issue with the idea that he should have been wearing the Senior Chief patch since Emissary (he still had the pips on the dress uni even after that IIRC).

But I can see how that could be complicated for the costume staff. I don’t find a complicated anymore because for a while I was kind of obsess with Star Trek uniforms so I learn just every about them including ranks. In fact I know but every rank insignia is,that’s how obsess I was.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I just watched Family again. You’r right. There goes my theory.

Rozhenko was enlisted back when CPOs wore that weird hollow octagon with a gold cluster thing from the TOS movies. He doesn't know what Starfleet uses anymore to designate rank.

And Worf told him that the transporter chief was a Chief Petty Officer.

 

[The Old Mixer]

If Worf's dad was invested enough to have specs and diagrams of the Enterprise at home, then it's only natural that he'd be up to date on details like the current rank insignia.

 

[Gabriel]

Rozhenko was enlisted back when CPOs wore that weird hollow octagon with a gold cluster thing from the TOS movies. He doesn't know what Starfleet uses anymore to designate rank.

And Worf told him that the transporter chief was a Chief Petty Officer.

Yeah but I doubt starfleet uniforms are classified to the public I’m sure he find some sources on current CPO rank insignia just like we could for the Navy by googling it. It is possible information about Starfleet is available to the public since Rozhenko had blueprints on the galaxy class. And by the way I just Watched Home again and worf never tells his father that o’brien was a chief petty officer.

 

[Nakita Akita]

I know we've had a thousand threads on costume errors and whatnot; but put yourself in their shoes.
Sometimes you work for ten hour days, have to come up with all sorts of funky costumes, have to shop around used furniture stores, supervise tailoring etc...This stuff happens, literally all the time. But you know what the best thing about it is?
IT'S FICTION! Just ignore the error and enjoy the show; or if gaffes bother you, just don't watch.

Also
As a military person, stuff can happen to a rank that is pinned on to a uniform.
They fall off sometimes. Or your sleepy or its dark and they get pinned on wrong.
Since it seems like those little dots are seperate and seem to be fairly easy to remove that they could fall off easily.

Having more of the pips though, that one is a little difficult to explain.

 

[Timo]

But there's no evidence of silver pips for enlisted grades. If we're going to say he's wearing something that's he's not, we might as well say he was wearing the DS9 device all along.

Silver (or black, as with O'Brien's later pip) is a color, though. And as Trekkies, we are contractually obligated to see gold where there is green.

Seeing shapes that are not there might be to much to ask. Colors, not so.

If Worf's dad was invested enough to have specs and diagrams of the Enterprise at home, then it's only natural that he'd be up to date on details like the current rank insignia.

Oh, I dunno. I certainly have an interest in the latest specs of USN hardware, but I have zero interest in the rank markers. Sergey might have been into the technical side of it, too.

Also as a military person, stuff can happen to a rank that is pinned on to a uniform. They fall off sometimes. Or your sleepy or its dark and they get pinned on wrong. Since it seems like those little dots are seperate and seem to be fairly easy to remove that they could fall off easily.

Having more of the pips though, that one is a little difficult to explain.

Well, in the 24th century, who'd bother to polish those things? Many probably throw smudgy ones into the replicator and replicate new ones. Getting the exact right number might not always happen. Say, you produce a nice big pool of clean ones for future use at once, and then absentmindedly keep on clipping those from a jar to your collar. Or you replicate them one at a time, and do the absentminded trick there, straight from replicator to collar.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Gabriel]

Oh, I dunno. I certainly have an interest in the latest specs of USN hardware, but I have zero interest in the rank markers. Sergey might have been into the technical side of it, too.

You may be like that but other are not. In fact I know about all military latest hardware and their rank insignia. And Sergey must be like me since he could identify o’brien as a chief petty officer without any help. And Another thing it’s called rank insignia not rank markers. And by the way we see green because that’s what are tv shows us. And wether you think we’re wrong or not some of us will believe that in that episode O’Brien rank was not supposed to be gold but silver

 

[The Old Mixer]

Which I know you know so stop being so darn snarky.

I’m going to have to ask you to not get so personal in responses. If you have an issue with another poster’s behavior, please report it rather than calling them out on it in-thread.

 

[Gabriel]

I’m going to have to ask you to not get so personal in responses. If you have an issue with another poster’s behavior, please report it rather than calling them out on it in-thread.

Very well. sorry if I violated the rules I will remove the sentence.