If he hadn't said he was STILL sick, I wouldn't have been as concerned. (And wanted to slap his mother for taking them out to spread germs). But I do understand the need to get books.
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If he hadn't said he was STILL sick, I wouldn't have been as concerned. (And wanted to slap his mother for taking them out to spread germs). But I do understand the need to get books.
I knew that but I grew up in the 80s listening to some of their stuff
I found out last week that according a recent poll vegans are the second most hated group in the country, with only drug addicts being more hated. I'm not sure if I should be proud to be vegan or not.
I think it says a lot about the state of the country right now that a group who's whole philosophy is based around compassion and causing the least amount of pain, suffering, and death possible, is so hated.
I think it says a lot about the state of the country right now that a group who's whole philosophy is based around compassion and causing the least amount of pain, suffering, and death possible, is so hated.
When you have big social media names like Imani Barbarin throwing out constant accusations of every "ism" and "phobia" they can think of toward vegans, it's not a surprise. The truth is that they are offended by the idea that they aren't the only living things in the world deserving of our compassion. You don't even have to be vegan to see this.I found out last week that according a recent poll vegans are the second most hated group in the country, with only drug addicts being more hated. I'm not sure if I should be proud to be vegan or not.
I think it says a lot about the state of the country right now that a group who's whole philosophy is based around compassion and causing the least amount of pain, suffering, and death possible, is so hated.
I always heard the trope "Vegans are judgmental." I know there are some who are jerks, but I think there's also a sense of "they're judging me" whether they really are or not.
I think that Vegans are completely misunderstood and their views misrepresented but also that they can (with my limited experience) come across as very judgmental, and very condescending. The compassion part is not something I've heard, but rather the idea that "Humans are taking things that are not theirs" in regard to animal products (eggs, milk, etc.) and that we are somehow in the wrong for doing as other animals do.
If it's a movement based on compassion it is not presented well in person.
If it's a movement based on compassion it is not presented well in person.
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Vegans can do whatever they want, but at least when I eat meat, it's already dead. They're eating those vegetables ALIVE!
srsly, I really could give a damn what vegans think of my dietary habits. I can't (and would never) force them to eat meat, and they can't keep me from eating it, so who the hell cares?
Oh, and how exactly do you pronounce 'vegan', anyway? I always thought it was "vedge-an", like you're about to say the word "vegetable". But I've heard it said "VEE-gan." That just sounds...wrong.
I mean, I have no issue with them as a lifestyle.Vegans can do whatever they want, but at least when I eat meat, it's already dead. They're eating those vegetables ALIVE!
srsly, I really could give a damn what vegans think of my dietary habits. I can't force them to eat meat, and they can't keep me from it, so what's the problem?
Oh, and how exactly do you pronounce 'vegan', anyway? I always thought it was "vedge-an", like you're about to say the word "vegetable". But I've heard it said "VEE-gan." That just sounds...wrong.
I've also had those who look sideways at me with the whole "I can't believe you eat X."
Which, I'm like, "Very carefully."
And that's the extent of it.
Looking at this new house where the back is facing the street. There's no back yard, just a lot of bark and bushes and stuff. And the driveway takes you to the other side of the house which is the front. So the front is facing the fence and the back is completely exposed to the street. Does that seem weird to you?
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Not really. I saw a home here with a pool in the front yard behind the fence but facing onto the street.
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Not really, no.
But, I saw a lot of houses when buying so maybe I'm used to what is considered odd.
Hmmm, that's my home town. I wonder if my sister knows this.
I've seen some houses with weird layouts, so it's not that unusual.
I think this tends a case of where the few jerks out there have become the stereotype that is the first thing most non-vegans think of when veganism is brought up.
The way I've seen veganism explained is that it is about a lifestyle where you cause the least amount of harm and suffering as you possibly can. When given to option to make a choice that has not caused death or pain, or even emotional suffering, you make that choice.
This sums it up pretty well
And as for being judgmental and condescending, I think some of that comes from the attitudes we encounter when we try to encourage non-vegans to think about the impact their choices are having.
And some of it does come from a bit of frustration to see so many people not care about the fact that they are responsible for the torture, and death of other sentient beings.
One thing I see with vegans is memes that comparing dogs and cats to cows, chickens, ect. and saying that if you aren't OK with it happening to a dog or a cat, you shouldn't be OK with it happening to the other animals.
Like this
Technically wouldn't the plants be dead once they've been removed from the vine/tree/root?Vegans can do whatever they want, but at least when I eat meat, it's already dead. They're eating those vegetables ALIVE!
As a vegan, my response to this would be, that the animals who are tortured and killed or the cows who's babies are stolen from them, care.
It's the second one.
Better give her the news!!!
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Well it depends on the situation, if it's just a completely random out of nowhere, then yeah that's bad. But if it's a situation where encouraging a compassionate alternative is possible, as long as you're not obnoxious about it, I'd see it being a problem.
And veganism is not a diet, it goes way beyond that to a full lifestyle. I don't know just eat vegan food, I do everything possible to make that everything I buy is vegan or at least cruelty free. I use vegan or cruelty free shampoo, body wash. shaving gel, and the new shoes my mom bought me for my birthday last month were vegan. And when I buy new clothes I try to make sure there's no wool, leather, silk, ect.
The only places where I really differ from most vegans is horseback riding and zoo. Most vegan oppose horseback riding, but I really don't have a problem with it as long as the horses are treated well. And if I got the chance, I would do it in a heartbeat.
And I kind of have mixed feelings about zoos, on one hand I'm not a big fan of keeping wild animals in captivity, and some zoos don't really treat their animals well, but on the other hand, there are a lot of good zoos out there doing a lot for education and conservation. And I do think it can be a good thing to give people a chance to see first hand animals from other parts of the world they may not be able to travel too.
And veganism is not a diet, it goes way beyond that to a full lifestyle. I don't know just eat vegan food, I do everything possible to make that everything I buy is vegan or at least cruelty free. I use vegan or cruelty free shampoo, body wash. shaving gel, and the new shoes my mom bought me for my birthday last month were vegan. And when I buy new clothes I try to make sure there's no wool, leather, silk, ect.
The only places where I really differ from most vegans is horseback riding and zoo. Most vegan oppose horseback riding, but I really don't have a problem with it as long as the horses are treated well. And if I got the chance, I would do it in a heartbeat.
And I kind of have mixed feelings about zoos, on one hand I'm not a big fan of keeping wild animals in captivity, and some zoos don't really treat their animals well, but on the other hand, there are a lot of good zoos out there doing a lot for education and conservation. And I do think it can be a good thing to give people a chance to see first hand animals from other parts of the world they may not be able to travel too.
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