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Random Thought: Was Janeway Killed Because She was So Polarizing?
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Where's Frontier, anyway? He or she started this whole thing this time around, and left the rest of us to natter on for page after page.
Sorry I haven't contributed to this thread lately. I decided slamming my head repeatedly against a brick wall would be a better use of my time.
Only because you have no compassion or respect for other people, no doubt.
Which is your provocative, there is no law that says you must read them, if you want to, then by all means do so, if not, then don't
no, it's hir perrogative.
it's the opinions on Janeway that are provocative.
Which is your provocative, there is no law that says you must read them, if you want to, then by all means do so, if not, then don't
no, it's hir perrogative.
Prerogative, actually.
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Well stated, and much nicer than I might have (mine was something along the lines of "Bollocks and balderdash...").
One thing though; I disapprove highly of the language suggesting that Katy J "wouldn't let" Voyager's crew go their own ways if the ship was destroyed and the crew found themselves in reasonably friendly space. That comes across as a little bit... tin-plated dictator-ish, at best.
Of course the DS9 Writers hated their own characters, to suggest otherwise is just silly.
Or didn't you know that the DS9 writers are the source of all that is darkness and evil in the Trekverse, incapable of any love or respect, and that their influence must be expunged by the Holy Crusade personally led by Saint Katherine (otherwise DARKNESS will cover the Galaxy) and her exotically handsome exotic playboy Chakotay? 
(Did I mention Saint Katherine's love puppy is exotic?)
And I like the character Kes so I resurrected the character in my first story and have continued to write stories about her. I like Janeway and ignore her "death" when I write my stories.
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I can't come up with an analyze of DS9 because I haven't watched the whole series (yet) due to strange policy by the station in my country which aired that series so I won't go into details.
But what I know, Sisko wasn't really killed off, Jadzia was killed off in the series because the actress wanted to quit. Weyoun and Dukat were villains and villains are often supposed to die in most stories.
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The last Voyager book I read was "Enemy Of my Enemy" by Christie Golden. I read it recently because I just wanted a conclusion of the Voyager books. Before that, it was the "String Theory" books (for obvious reasons) and yes, I did read "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" when they were published and also "Old Wounds" a year ago or so.
I admit that my interest for the Voyager books haven't been that strong due to the fact that Kes is missing but I've tried to buy and read some of them occasionally to keep in touch with the ongoing Voyager story and also adapt my own writing to that (my "Strange Dreams" story is adapted to the scenario which was going on in the relaunch at that time) because I did consider the relaunch to be a continuation of the series and therefore adapted my own stories to that, even if I wasn't too fond of certain things in those books (Neelix, Tuvok and The Doctor missing on the ship at that time).
If they hadn't annihilated Janeway, I would probably have bought and read some of the upcoming books to keep in touch with what was going on and adapted my own stories to that scenario.
Now I don't give a d*** about the relaunch and "official Star trek" anymore. In my recent story all the main characters (except Neelix) were involved. Janeway was in command of Voyager and Tuvok was back too.
The reason that Neelix was missing is that I'm planning to come up with a story which brings him back as well.
There, you didn't have to wait long for that resurrection did you?
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Hmmm.......I think you are twisting it too much here. You can't compare Janeway with Seska or some other villain. Janeway is in fact the main character of Voyager.
Not to mention that Janeway was killed off in a TNG book. How is it possible for a TNG author to dabble with the Voyager characters?
As for Sisko, he's back now, isn't he?
Hmmm.......I think you are twisting it too much here. You can't compare Janeway with Seska or some other villain. Janeway is in fact the main character of Voyager.
Not to mention that Janeway was killed off in a TNG book. How is it possible for a TNG author to dabble with the Voyager characters?
As for Sisko, he's back now, isn't he?
Because it's a shared universe and these things happen.
It just strikes me as kind of simplistic to base your enjoyment of a story on such a black and white, "villains die and heroes always win" kind of paradigm. Trek seems like it should have room for more complicated shades of gray than that.
As for your other questions, Janeway's death was assigned by the editor and not a decision of the author, and I do agree it was a mistake to kill her in a TNG book. And Sisko came back 10 novels after the DS9 relaunch started without him. We're on novel number 2 without Janeway. Give it time.
As for your other questions, Janeway's death was assigned by the editor and not a decision of the author, and I do agree it was a mistake to kill her in a TNG book. And Sisko came back 10 novels after the DS9 relaunch started without him. We're on novel number 2 without Janeway. Give it time.
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The reasons why people want to or don't want to read a book aren't always as simplistic as they may sound. For example, I know that Ole Yeller is considered a classic but I have no intention of reading the novel or watching the film. Call me crazy but reading about/watching a young boy's beloved dog get shot because of rabies is not my idea of a worthwhile way to spend my time.
On the other hand I can read a novel like Suite Francaise about French civilians during WW2 knowing it was written by a woman who was sent to the concentration camps and call it a worthwhile experience even though the subject matter and the fate of the author are both heartbreaking. Go figure.
I had my reasons for watching Trek and the death of Janeway just didn't fit in with those reasons. Meanwhile, I have a coffee table piled up with my "to read" books. It would have been great to have some Voyager books among them but such is life...
And in what way is that not as simplistic as it sounds??
And in what way is that not as simplistic as it sounds??
Taken out of context as you've done then yes it does sound simplistic. Go back and read the above quote within the context of the entire post and you may understand my point.
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