Nope, I got that you spent a few years in the South and that Pensive had some crying friends from Alabama. I guess men don't blubber in Florida or Texas.
Question about Trip's death
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Nope, I got that you spent a few years in the South and that Pensive had some crying friends from Alabama. I guess men don't blubber in Florida or Texas.
Perhaps it was how CT sees southerners---who knows. It was a bad acting choice one often made by actors who want to make a big moment bigger.Less is often more.I know many would have loved to see an entire finale of blubbering over Trip's death. To me that would have been laughable and unbelievable.
how you react to grief and show your emotions is nothing to do with where you live
To generalise that, IMO, beggers belief.
How you react is based on your nature and what kind of person you are. Considering the person that we knew Trip was - emotional, heart on sleeve etc., how he reacted was completely in line with the very person he was. IMO, Connor hit the nail on the head.
I certainly wouldn't expect Reed or Archer to act the same way because it wasn't in their nature or what we knew of them, to act that way.
To generalise that, IMO, beggers belief.How you react is based on your nature and what kind of person you are. Considering the person that we knew Trip was - emotional, heart on sleeve etc., how he reacted was completely in line with the very person he was. IMO, Connor hit the nail on the head.
I certainly wouldn't expect Reed or Archer to act the same way because it wasn't in their nature or what we knew of them, to act that way.
It may also be difference in the point of view - as someone who has suffered several deep losses - my only brother, my first husband, my only son - I see the few tears in this scene as very natural. When my son died at 25 years old, all of the young men who were his friends cried openly along with their girlfriends and wives, as did many of the older men. In this scene, which is played as private between Tucker and the woman with whom he is supposedly falling in love, this is a very mild expression of the deep grief that Tucker is feeling. No one would question a woman shedding those few tears. As I write this and the emotions come back, even after 3 years, tears are running down my face and no one would think that odd. I know the struggle to contain and control such intense grief and be normal in public, and for a man to feel that it must never be expressed, even in private, must be a tremendous burden.
Your insight is most welcome here, and I, too, have seen the loss of young person whome I knew and have seen the reactions of those around him. Thanks for sharing. Back to the episode, I want to say that after so many ST shows about battles, tech, and all of that, this episode was true return to real human emotion. Trip began by being stressed out, short on temper, too much on his plate to keep the ship going, plus the stress that his enemy (Degra) wasn't really a bad guy and that he had to look him in the eye to realize that, and Connor did a masterful job of playing these emotions, . Even before the breakdown, the acting seemed very authentic to me. ST has always had good acting, but since the show is so far and so oftne removed from our relatity, it's hard to relate...to really relate, and to see how uathentic the acting is. But here, in this episode, everything up to and including the breakdown felt very authentic.
I remember the day it aired and their was word that the show might be canceled. After viewing the show, I was so impressed that I called Paramount and asked...how could you cancel it after such a remarkable episode.. referring not obnly the story but to Connor's performance as well.
Notice to all in this thread: I've stayed out of it because how you feel about the characters is your business, but I'm seeing people coming far too close to discussing the posters and not the posts. I DON'T CARE if you liked Trip or you hated him, but you will be respectful of other people's opinions in this forum. If you can't do that, at least ignore other people's opinions. I'm tired of the snide remarks--I've seen it get ugly in here too many times.
Clearly there are two factions here, those who liked Trip and Trinneer's acting and those who did not. That's fine with me, but posting in this thread has become all about contradicting the person who's not on your side of the line, no matter what they say. Don't make your mod crazy, okay? Let's just all accept that we're probably NOT going to change the hearts and minds of those who do not agree with us and move on.
ETA: Re-reading this thread and my own reply here has certainly shown me one thing: considering how divided the fans of the show are about the character and how given we are to analysis, its no wonder that Trip's death created controversy.
Clearly there are two factions here, those who liked Trip and Trinneer's acting and those who did not. That's fine with me, but posting in this thread has become all about contradicting the person who's not on your side of the line, no matter what they say. Don't make your mod crazy, okay? Let's just all accept that we're probably NOT going to change the hearts and minds of those who do not agree with us and move on.
ETA: Re-reading this thread and my own reply here has certainly shown me one thing: considering how divided the fans of the show are about the character and how given we are to analysis, its no wonder that Trip's death created controversy.
Which tends to be less and less true over time. I was born and raised in the South(Virginia)and still live here. Almost all my family on both sides are Southerners. And a lot of the males(myself included)are emotional softies who don't need a major cataclysm or tragedy to weep or cry.
I like eps like The Forgotten; I think Conner did wonderful job; but then having never seen Enterprise before when I saw the final eps heck I was in tears over a character never watched when I saw the ending; the reactions of his death from Tpol and Archer just got me and the scene in infirmary. But I think Connor does wonderful job.
Many missed the real emotion in TATV and the idea of seeing it from an outsider's viewpoint. I thought it interesting and liked the guilt exhibited along with grief by Archer and T'Pol .That is very real and the actors' choice of restraint rather than going large made for a better impact.
I will admit that the scene in Trip's quarters with T'Pol and Archer near the end of the episode had a few touching moments and was probably THE acting highlight of the entire finale.
I thought it was touching how she was showing grief over his personal items as she remembered him, but the writers ruined it by having Archer, yet again, yapping on about his speech, which we never got to hear.
TATV was just so disjointed in every way and contradicted everything that had gone on before - a total WTF episode
whose flaws vast outweighed any emotion that was hoped to be gained from scenes from above, to the point that all you get upon its ending is - WTF were they thinking.
TATV was just so disjointed in every way and contradicted everything that had gone on before - a total WTF episode
whose flaws vast outweighed any emotion that was hoped to be gained from scenes from above, to the point that all you get upon its ending is - WTF were they thinking.
Honestly, that scene was about the ONLY aspect of the finale besides some music and the closing shot of the three different Enterprises that moved me in a positive way. The rest of the story is such a complete and shitty mess not even those few gems could save it.
I only know this because I was born in the same area Trip is from. He sounds more like he should be from Texas, not the Alabama/Florida Gulf coast area. Panama City is not in the middle of Florida. Besides that I liked his acting, Trip was the only redeemable thing about the show other than T'Pol's ass and Hoshi's smile. Man those are 2 good looking women. But I always assumed that any/all of the characters would eventually die at some point. The shows a freakin' prequel!
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I didn't care because I hate 98% of the Enterprise episodes and I hate Trip.
Finally. Somebody with taste.
How do you feel about Hoshi and Reed?
I didn't care because I hate 98% of the Enterprise episodes and I hate Trip.
Why bother posting if you aren't going to try and contribute to the discussion?
I didn't care because I hate 98% of the Enterprise episodes and I hate Trip.
Why bother posting if you aren't going to try and contribute to the discussion?
WE can always stay on topic and discuss why they killed Trip off but I seem to enjoy Connors reaction to it
Connor in interviews indicated he was okay with Trip's death and talked about how humbled he was to have an entire episode devoted to his character. I think the actor got it.
Yea I find that intresting thing to say!!
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