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Presidential Debate round 2

Civil Rights paints a pretty broad brush now-adays. I thought he was referring to the more traditional civil rights movement that started in the 60's under MLK. So I guess, yes, in the broader definition, the topic was covered, but never mentioned by name (at least, not that I recall).
 
I saw this posted online:

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And decided to make my own variation on the theme:

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^^^ IIRC drug laws weren't covered at all, and topics like legalizing marijuana still seem to be quite a political hot potato on both sides of the aisle (even though legalizing and subsequent taxation of said substance would bring in an ASS TON of revenue - but they'll be happy just raising our taxes and killing our deductions - low-hanging fruit, and all that). Cowards, one and all.

The War on Terror was loosely touched upon due to the fore-mentioned Libya kerfuffle and a few snipes on Syria, but the foreign policy stuff is going to be largely covered next week.
 
Which is going to be boring because there is barely any difference between them. I bet they will do everything they can to not discuss the despicable fact that people can be killed on a presidential order.
 
^^^ IIRC drug laws weren't covered at all, and topics like legalizing marijuana still seem to be quite a political hot potato on both sides of the aisle (even though legalizing and subsequent taxation of said substance would bring in an ASS TON of revenue - but they'll be happy just raising our taxes and killing our deductions - low-hanging fruit, and all that). Cowards, one and all.

It's because old people (the people who actually vote) are scared of pot.

Once they die off and politicians don't have to pander to their parents' or grandparents' generations, then the law should change.
 
^^^ No and no.
I would rather not have the debates. They only agree to a moderator who never truly challanges them.

Then what's the point?

If I understand it correctly, a moderator's job is not to call the debaters out when they lie, but instead to make sure that things don't get too out of hand and that rules are followed. The responsibility of challenging the validity of what is said goes to the two debaters.

HOWEVER, these productions are not run like real debates.

Candidates can play pretty loose with the facts and even knowingly lie (I will say the word "lie", even if the candidates won't). They should be discussing facts, not spewing and supporting misconceptions.

I think we do need some sharp, capable on-the-spot fact checkers who will check what is said, and if any major contention/statement is clearly a lie, a correction is shown in a caption on the screen OR (better yet) word is given to the moderator, who takes a break periodically to speak the correction. And the guilty candidate who misspoke is given NO opportunity to address the audience about it.

There needs to be some penalty or consequence of some kind for misleading the viewers.

Also. If you have two minutes to talk, your microphone goes dead after two minutes. Right at two minutes. I am sick of these people not playing by the rules.

Also, organizing & running the debates need to go back into the hands of the bi-partisan League of Women Voters and out of the hands of the networks hosting the various debates because it is to the Networks advantage to kiss the butts of the candidates and treat them with kid gloves so as to not offend anyone; they want to make sure that the politicians will come on to their news & talk programs for interviews....
 
It's the same old rhetoric. You hear all these wonderful sounding ideas, with no facts to back up how they will go about it.
 
Romney reminded me of a bad boss, one of those guys that wants things his way, like a child, without contributing any details as to what exactly IS his way.

My father turned a report of something to his boss. The boss literally said, "That's not what I wanted." Okay, so what DID he want? "That's for you to figure out." He did this repeated until HIS boss called him out and reassigned him away from my dad--and told the guy that he was in the wrong, had no idea what he was doing as a supervisor, and even that he should have be deferring to dad's opinion. OUCH!
 
^^^ No and no.
I would rather not have the debates. They only agree to a moderator who never truly challanges them.

Then what's the point?

If I understand it correctly, a moderator's job is not to call the debaters out when they lie, but instead to make sure that things don't get too out of hand and that rules are followed. The responsibility of challenging the validity of what is said goes to the two debaters.

HOWEVER, these productions are not run like real debates.

Candidates can play pretty loose with the facts and even knowingly lie (I will say the word "lie", even if the candidates won't). They should be discussing facts, not spewing and supporting misconceptions.

I think we do need some sharp, capable on-the-spot fact checkers who will check what is said, and if any major contention/statement is clearly a lie, a correction is shown in a caption on the screen OR (better yet) word is given to the moderator, who takes a break periodically to speak the correction. And the guilty candidate who misspoke is given NO opportunity to address the audience about it.

There needs to be some penalty or consequence of some kind for misleading the viewers.

Also. If you have two minutes to talk, your microphone goes dead after two minutes. Right at two minutes. I am sick of these people not playing by the rules.

Also, organizing & running the debates need to go back into the hands of the bi-partisan League of Women Voters and out of the hands of the networks hosting the various debates because it is to the Networks advantage to kiss the butts of the candidates and treat them with kid gloves so as to not offend anyone; they want to make sure that the politicians will come on to their news & talk programs for interviews....
A tough question does not require moderator intervention, just a reporter with guts.

I would favor the electric hair solution. any obvious lie is rewarded by icreasing electric shock. Only one of them comes out alive.:devil::devil::devil:
 
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