They don't like "woke" in that one either.
LOL...good point, I forgot about that too.
Well...guess there's Starship Troopers for them
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LOL...good point, I forgot about that too.
Well...guess there's Starship Troopers for them
I mean, people like all kinds of things. My earliest episodes were Balance of Terror and Where No Man Has Gone Before. Those are mostly avlc5ion oriented and people focus on what they like.
Dangerous to assume why people became fans and what messages they picked up on.
I like Starship Troopers too.
No no, I know...I mean about saying that Trek had "gone woke" when it's been "woke" since the earliest days of social progressivism
Again, assumption.
Verhoeven's intent probably went straight over their heads.
Verhoeven's intent probably went straight over their heads.
I'm sure it did
The message of BOT is kind of "woke". The message of WNMHGB is about power corrupting.
I think GR's "progressive" ideas for Star Trek are well documented.
You're assuming people dig in enough to find out.
When the Roddenberry official site was releasing PDFs of early TNG script drafts for the 25th anniversary, you could tell which notes were Gene’s and which were Maizlisch’s. That smarmy twerp had his hands in everywhere on those scripts. Quite right for Gerrold and Fontana to get him booted from the writers offices by the WGA.
Rod Roddenberry is an executive producer on all current Star Trek shows. He is the son of Gene Roddenberry.
Therefore all current shows are exactly .5 of a Star Trek based on his genetic makeup!
Are those archived anywhere online?
On the negative side, this site has some online bullies. On the positive side, you learn about stuff like this. So thanks for adding some positivity to the experience!
This is perfect! I'll be able to compare this to what I picked up upon when re-watching TNG Season 1 in 2019.
"Woke" ideas are only divisive if you don't believe everyone is equal. Star Trek advocates for equality and for diversity -- literally the "D" in "IDIC."
In my experience, segregation is exactly what the people who hate "wokeness" so much want.
There is clearly ‘woke — being aware of social issues with a view to positive change’ ‘woke — being performative in pretence of ideological superiority in order to make oneself look good or sell products (see also: virtue signalling, political correctness)’ ‘woke — a pejorative used in a political manner against a mindset or culture you find opposite to your own, typical from what is nominally the right versus the left (see also political correctness)’ ‘woke — being awake’ ‘woke — a political and cultural movement with associations with California, that has many or all things in common with other definitions, and an interpretation that may include taking control of political narrative and changing/stifling discussion (see also: political correctness)’ ‘woke — slang of likely African-American Vocalised English origin concerning awareness of systemic discrimination in the United States’ ‘woke — a design of Levi’s jeans advertised on SNL’ ‘woke — slang term describing an item in the style of earlier definitions, except the Jeans, and can be considered equivalent to something being good or bad, depending on speaker and possibly lunar cycle’….
I think people need bigger vocabularies personally. Whole things got a bit naff.
Unfortunately or fortunately, Trek has matched many of the interpretations over the years, apart from maybe the jeans.
I think people need bigger vocabularies personally. Whole things got a bit naff.
Unfortunately or fortunately, Trek has matched many of the interpretations over the years, apart from maybe the jeans.
Oh but be careful with that. Yet another definition for Woke is deciding decades or even centuries later that certain words in our vocabulary violate Wokeness and by God any one - even a thousand goddamned years ago - that uttered those words has to be excoriated and utterly removed from human history.
You could lose the Himalayas in the gap between Woke and what Star Trek was pre Kurtzman.
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