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Neurotic and RLM have been declaring Disco cancelled for three seasons now.
So I sometimes listen to Gary at Nerdrotic, though outside game of thrones season 8 we don't agree on all that much and I have not watched the recent seasons of Dr. Who which seem to drive him nuts.
You know the worst part of his channel though? Its the vile, racist, and full of hate comments in the live chat. Even in the comments for the posted videos. One guy got into an argument with me in the comments for a posted video. He told me that the next revolution was on the way here in the US and he was buying ammunition. He actually told me that the show Watchmen was "evidence' that the next civil war was about to start. I told him he was a loon. LOL
That doesn't even sound like the craziest thing I've heard working in retail.
When has RLM ever said that?Neurotic and RLM have been declaring Disco cancelled for three seasons now.
I was speaking figuratively (they're part of that clique).
One thing I agree about with RLM is that they actually don't care that DISCO updated the entire aesthetic of the 23rd century, remarking that TOS no longer looks like our future. It's right at the 5:00 of this video. There's definitely a loud subset of fans who can't get past that kind of thing, aside from the tone and storytelling.
And they are right on that point.
This. It's why I equate these channels to FOX News. The effect is exactly the same.
Except Midnight's Edge: they're InfoWars.
The problem with this is, TOS, for me, has long stopped looking like our future. (Even TNG has, but less obviously so). I understand the continuity problem, but that leaves you with two choices: Keep continuity, or try and make it look somewhat futuristic for us. I could live with both but I understand the choice the producers made.
Neurotic and RLM have been declaring Disco cancelled for three seasons now.
I was kinda disappointed when Mike was flirting with the "No one watches nuTrek" conspiracy theory, then he went full in on it with the latest video. Thought he was smarter than to believe those types of rumours. Remember how Picard was supposed to be cancelled before release?
What I don't understand with 'hate watching', is that by watching the show you're helping it stay on air. If you're paying for a subscription service in order to watch it, you're helping the show even more. Just don't watch it and move on.
That clique has talked of other channels, some of which are fairly rancid (and half of them don't realize it in their unintentional conflation), but RLM? hen I was subscribed to a number of them, they never mentioned RLM. Maybe they have since, I'm only subscribed to two of the channels at this point... (my apologies if I'm thinking of the wrong set of channels...)
Some of them have said they paid subscription. But not all. They probably have as well. One channel that incites not purchasing their merchandise even thanks people who buy merchandise to give to him. But it's for the old shows...
Here's a decent video, and definitely not made by anyone in "the clique":
They also don't mention how, if they got into an actual battle, how'd they be able to control any single function even semi-reliably and not tap on the wrong space to begin with.
EC is usually supportive in its perspectives of the newer incarnations... they did a decent job of backing up stuff in "The Last Jedi"...
They also don't mention how, if they got into an actual battle, how'd they be able to control any single function even semi-reliably and not tap on the wrong space to begin with.
EC is usually supportive in its perspectives of the newer incarnations... they did a decent job of backing up stuff in "The Last Jedi"...
The issue of pressing the wrong button is no different from a mechanical keyboard to a touchscreen to a hologram.
The only console that was holographic on the La Sirena was the captain's console, which looked to be more for short-range piloting. The tactical console, which I'm sure is one of the forward consoles, is a touch-screen, as was standard by TNG.
For the Zheng He, unless the forward pedestals are secretly holo-consoles, there are no holographic consoles present.
The only ship that we see that makes full use of holographic console tech is the Romulan Snake-head fighter, but even that appears to rely on a joystick for immediate actions.
EC Henry is someone I almost always agree with, but this time he really dropped the ball. Generating a full console would be way more taxing on the computer than a hud made solid with forcefields.
All shows are of its time, hence prequels being very iffy by their nature - for both aesthetic and content as any questions being answered might create new ones. Or how sequels have to increasingly juggle with continuity, just not retroactively. And continuity is as much a blessing as it is a curse, since doing any ol' thing for any ol' reason gets boring mighty quick. And only gets worse from there.
In terms of control panels, TNG still looks futuristic as well as plausible. TOS has dated poorly in that aspect for sure... ironically, these fiction shows seem often to create the ideas that later get turned into real life devices and sold. Sadly, TNG's PADDs where it's "one topic per device" motif has dated by far the worst of any Trek incarnation so far. Which is a shame as the concept of it was an innovation of items we saw in 1960s shows and movies but far more refined and organically) also led to the technology we use today... even the yeoman's device, big as it is, is a consolidated form of writeable tablet, with not much difference between that and the old paper-on-clipboard with pencil...
Or the makers could make a new show, innovated by previous ones' ideals and concepts, winning us over with new characters on a blank slate. After all, that's how Star Wars started - an amalgamation of reusing old ideas while bringing in a new one, which took off like hotcakes. Star Wars was mostly aesthetic, but TESB pretty much sealed the deal in taking a couple twists, and some great improv by the actors. ("I know.") And while there were missed opportunities, they got the cast and enough characterization to show the sequel trilogy having decent potential and without the need for Palpsy to return. That was still a cluster since day one, long before Rian did TLJ and it's the most inventive of the three, but I digress. (the ST still went overboard with new Force features; in sci-fi and even fantasy there need to be in-universe limitations or it doesn't feel organic (or renders new questions as to why Luke didn't save Darth or anyone else with Force Heal, etc, etc.) )
Especially with how much emphasis was put in VOY for holograms and the various innovations with the Doctor. The controls are just a logical extension of that tech.
We could have a debate about whether or not generating a full console would be taxing on the computer (I doubt it would be considering the amount of computing power that would be available centuries from now), but I don't think that's the point.
I think the point was that Picard (and Discovery IMO) have very uninspired generic visions of the future.
I don't want to be the one supporting them here, but that was part of the joke. They are horror movie fans who created a traditional kind of serial killer (the prostitute-murdering kind who would, of course, have misogynistic views on women), and used that to plug in their own views of the movies and shows.
Not every view espoused by Plinkett, a horrifying killer, is supposed to be taken literally from the mouth of Mike Stoklasa, even if it comes literally from the mouth of Mike Stoklasa. It's just a confusing dynamic they set up for morbid humor.
Even in Half in the Bag, they play caricatures of themselves. This Re:view series, which I haven't seen, and I suppose the Best of the Worst, are the only times where we can take their words sincerely. But they're still comedians doing jokes, so we should always look at context.
But when Mr. Plinkett says something about killing prostitutes, we're intended to roll our eyes at the exaggerations being made, not treat it as a disrespect for women. A point to be made: Stoklasa's wife used to be a regular on Half in the Bag, but she had to leave because some of the fans of the show used some incredibly disparaging remarks (probably just jokes, of course, taking the Plinkett personality too far in YouTube comments, but who knows). These guys aren't their characters, and have taken measures to protect themselves from the fallout of their comedy, but not perfectly so. We shouldn't fall into the same trap as some of their more fervent fans and take them too seriously.
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