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Picard film in development
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How long has it taken to roll cameras on Section 31?
Paramount moves at a glacial pace, even during the best of times.
Yeah, but Michelle Yeoh is in no danger of dying of old age anytime soon.
Honestly, if anything they're going to have Jean-Luc in some kind of advisory capacity where he can sit a lot. Or as the guy who tells the story of the movie. (That way Sir Patrick could finally have his ending with the mysterious wife who calls him over for dinner at the end.)
Sir Patrick is not really doing any TV/movie work anymore, hasn't been for quite a while, ever since PIC season 3 (which took about all of his strength to finish). He only rarely appears at events anymore. He's definitely slowed things down a LOT. It's impossible not to notice. He keeps talking about theater projects he still wants to do, but... he's been talking about those for years now and nothing has happened. I'm not sure if he's saying all this to re-assure himself or others or both, but I absolutely cannot see him doing a stage play every evening for weeks on end. Not anymore. Nor can I see him doing a movie where he plays the main character who's in almost every single scene.
Sir Patrick is not really doing any TV/movie work anymore, hasn't been for quite a while, ever since PIC season 3 (which took about all of his strength to finish). He only rarely appears at events anymore. He's definitely slowed things down a LOT. It's impossible not to notice. He keeps talking about theater projects he still wants to do, but... he's been talking about those for years now and nothing has happened. I'm not sure if he's saying all this to re-assure himself or others or both, but I absolutely cannot see him doing a stage play every evening for weeks on end. Not anymore. Nor can I see him doing a movie where he plays the main character who's in almost every single scene.
Yeah, you could really tell he was struggling in S3. Almost every scene he was in consisted of a dramatic entrance followed by immediately sitting down. They probably should have taken more time off between S2 and S3 so he could have rested more, because he seemed much more spry in S2.
It's cos Brent Spiner ran him down in a car in season 2
Let me know when it goes into the stop bath and fixer.
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I can appreciate THAT aspect of it... I just think they failed on the execution.
Given the lore behind them, i'm totally fine that the DSC Klingon ships really share almost nothing in common with other Klingon ships we have seen. The Empire has basically fallen and the Houses are all just doing their own thing... this is what happens when you have leave the Klingon houses to their own devices for a century or so. Totally fine with all of that. The D7 popping up with the reunification of the Empire reinforces my theory that the "traditional" Klingon type ships are reserved for the Empire, and Klingon honor prevents individual Houses from producing them.
But by and large, in my opinion, the DSC Klingon ships are just... ugly.
I kind of sort of like the Qoj. Probably my favorite of them, although that's not saying much.
See, for me the ugliness is part of the appeal - it feels right that a warrior race like the Klingons would have these ships that a) don't conform to human ideas of style and b) are likely more functional
Obviously though this is all subjective and I really like your logic of the D7 being the reunified Empire's glory.
Yeah I see what you're saying. I can appreciate it... even support it... I just don't think it was done correctly. I think there's a way to make a ship look "ugly" as in not conforming to human standards while still looking... good? I take some issue with the point of them being more functional... these ships, and the entire Klingon aesthetic, is much more intricate, flourished and artsy than we have ever seen from Klingons. It seems to be the exact opposite... functional is bare metal corridors, these ships are flying (ugly) sculptures filled with art...
But yeah I think the D7 thing tracks. A plot point is that the Empire basically doesn't exist, and we know Klingons are downright dogmatic about their laws and traditions. So if the traditionally Klingon looking ship designs were Klingon Empire ships... it may well be illegal, or at least seen as dishonorable, to utilize them in absence of Imperial authority.
Agree on both points. I think the Great Houses have their own ships that they bring out based upon the need of the moment. T'Kumva lighting the light of Kahless would bring out some pretty arcane and traditional approaches so we see those ships and a wider variety used.
I also think the D7 was an attempt to unify the appearance of the Klingons around the Empire rather than the Great Houses.
Functional is probably not the right word to be fair - in my head I know what I mean but couldn't quite articulate is. I guess lacking in smoothness would be better?
Could argue (if I chose to double down) that the function of the look is to scare their enemies with their look or something but even then it isn't quite the right word!
I like the idea of it being dishonourable - almost like the designs were in the name of Kahless and if you don't fly under his banner i.e. the Empire but your own you would be shunned for doing so
This is overkill.
We got to say goodbye to the TNG crew at the end of "All Good Things..."
We got to say goodbye to the TNG crew at the end of Star Trek: Nemesis.
Then most recently we got to say goodbye to the TNG crew at the end of Star Trek: Picard Season 3, which to me was the perfect ending to the whole TNG saga, bookending it beautifully.
A fourth goodbye is just doing too much. I know I'm just repeating what a few might've said already but I am not interested in anymore Star Trek with Picard as the main focus or the whole TNG crew "back for one more adventure". I mean, nothing I read suggested this movie was going to bring back everyone from TNG.
If anyone from the TNG crew were to make a guest cameo appearance in any new Star Trek material, I'd have been okay with this but a Picard movie? No, thank you!
I'd much rather it be in the form of a novel.
We got to say goodbye to the TNG crew at the end of "All Good Things..."
We got to say goodbye to the TNG crew at the end of Star Trek: Nemesis.
Then most recently we got to say goodbye to the TNG crew at the end of Star Trek: Picard Season 3, which to me was the perfect ending to the whole TNG saga, bookending it beautifully.
A fourth goodbye is just doing too much. I know I'm just repeating what a few might've said already but I am not interested in anymore Star Trek with Picard as the main focus or the whole TNG crew "back for one more adventure". I mean, nothing I read suggested this movie was going to bring back everyone from TNG.
If anyone from the TNG crew were to make a guest cameo appearance in any new Star Trek material, I'd have been okay with this but a Picard movie? No, thank you!
I'd much rather it be in the form of a novel.
Trek novels are practically non-existent these days.
Q would work.
They could probably work Mark Hamill into the script to be a Q as well, to get some sort of a Star Trek-Star Wars crossover to happen (I know of the UberEats commercial, but this is different.).
1. It assumes that Q approached saying goodbye to Picard linearly. Q even chides the idea of thinking linearly in the post-credits scene of S3. Its possible that he did have one more meeting with Picard after PIC.
2. Picard, while aware of them, has never met other members of the Q Continuum before aside from Amanda Rogers.
Picard needs an oil change and tune up before his warranty expires. He goes to find Soong XII to help. Hilarity ensues.
Again dudes, it's very likely that Sir Pat was just talking out of his butt, or misremembering something he heard years ago. Just as he's no longer physically what he was, his memory has, sadly, gotten worse as well.
It was pretty clear during the Picard Season 3 promotional interviews. Once he was asked about the season, and began expounding in great detail about Season 2. Gates McFadden had to step in and gently correct him.
It was pretty clear during the Picard Season 3 promotional interviews. Once he was asked about the season, and began expounding in great detail about Season 2. Gates McFadden had to step in and gently correct him.
Seasons two and three were filmed back-to-back.
I can see how he might've blurred things. It doesn't mean the man is senile.
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