Picard film in development

[BillJ]

That's how a lot of TOS fans like it.

They tune in every week for a graduate seminar on ethics and philosophy.

We definitely run with different crowds.

 

[The Wormhole]

I do think that Pike too often plays second-fiddle to others in the crew

Yeah, Star Trek just can't win with some fans. Everyone and their dog whined for years that Disco was too much "the Michael Burnham show" and that it's wrong to "focus exclusively on one character because Star Trek is supposed to be an ensemble." SNW does spread the focus amongst its main cast rather than on one lead and now it's "Pike is too much of a second fiddle, he needs to take lead more often."

I do also think the show skews a bit too heavily in having the women crew members be on the verge of Mary Sue's and generally take the lead.

None of the women on SNW are "Mary Sues." But since it's really starting to sound like you have an axe to grind with women, it's probably best for me to back out now.

 

[Nerys Myk]

They tune in every week for a graduate seminar on ethics and philosophy.

So, you're saying it's Star Trek?

 

[Turtletrekker]

The use of the phrase "Mary Sue" is another indication that someone should not be taken seriously.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

The use of the phrase "Mary Sue" is another indication that someone should not be taken seriously.

If they used it and knew what it meant, I’d be okay with it.

There are no Mary Sues on SNW. By definition.

 

[Turtletrekker]

There's no doubt it's canon Every word and date uttered is canon. Even the ones that make no sense.

Garak: "It's all canon."
Bashir: "Even the contradictions?"
Garak: "Especially the contradictions."

 

[Dukhat]

There's also the tendency of some fans to view anything that's not considered the Prime timeline to be somewhat lesser than the rest of the franchise, regardless of quality.

That combined with the notion that the VAST majority of people watching the show don't know, or care if something is the prime timeline or not. Most people watching will just view it as a prequel to "the old Star Trek." For CBS to identify any series aa being something other than prime, would potentially be granting a win to the small but vocal minority of fans who choose to bash anything made after 2005, no matter how good or bad it is.

Not saying that's anyone here in particular, but there is definitely an element to the fandom that simply hates "nuTrek" because it doesn't conform to their vision of Trek.

I dunno. The Abrams films were hugely successful and made tons of money, and I don’t think their audience really gave a crap that they took place in some other timeline despite the first movie making that abundantly clear. So I don’t think the ‘prime timeline’ is any measure of how interested someone will be in watching a show, despite what the producers of nuTrek think.

 

[fireproof78]

There's also the tendency of some fans to view anything that's not considered the Prime timeline to be somewhat lesser than the rest of the franchise, regardless of quality.

Yup. Kelvin films were dismissed as lesser and still somehow wrong despite being an alternate timeline. The two most common questions I see are is this canon and does it overwrite past shows. Rarely is it considered additive and must be partitioned.

That's how a lot of TOS TNG fans like it.

They tune in every week for a graduate seminar on ethics and philosophy.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Picard1994]

How much of the 1990's have we seen since 1987?

The entire decade?

But of course, you probably mean the show....

 

[Picard1994]

All of it.
Oh, wait. you mean in-universe

Oops. beat me to it. Can somebody delete my comment? I can't do that yet.

 

[fireproof78]

Oops. beat me to it. Can somebody delete my comment? I can't do that yet.

Just hit report and ask a mod.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Oops. beat me to it. Can somebody delete my comment? I can't do that yet.

I wouldn't worry about it. Happens all the time.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Oops. beat me to it. Can somebody delete my comment? I can't do that yet.

I wouldn't worry about it. Happens all the time.

 

[fireproof78]

 

[Nerys Myk]

Must be Kurtzman's fault.

 

[Jayson1]

The use of the phrase "Mary Sue" is another indication that someone should not be taken seriously.

Nobody says Mary Sue anymore. The new term is Girl Boss.

 

[Tomalak]

I do have to admit that I got a sad chuckle seeing one of the Soong's carrying a folder that says "Project: Khan" on it. How did he know one of the future augments would be name Khan?

In fairness, "Khan" is a title as much as a name. It literally means "king", so would be an appropriate name for a line of potential Ubermensch rulers. I guess they hit the jackpot with the Noonien Singh version.

The more curious thing is La'an being called "Noonien Singh" instead of just Singh. I think someone across the years would probably have dropped that to avoid the notoriety.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

There could be brave, heroic Noonien-Singh ancestors we know nothing of, whom the family desires to honor.

 

[Tomalak]

There could be brave, heroic Noonien-Singh ancestors we know nothing of, whom the family desires to honor.

Could be, but La'an didn't seem to think so.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I guess it depends on which relative you ask.

Maybe it was retained as a reminder of what not to do, then.