Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by The Old Mixer, Jan 8, 2020.

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  1. Crewman6

    Crewman6 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah, that was my first thought, but I think the two Romulans are supposed to be the couple. You don't write "She heard you talking in your sleep!" if you DON'T want to imply two people are a couple. bad move.
     
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  2. Alan Roi

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    No.
     
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    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    mostly
     
  4. BillJ

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    A 97 year old man who has lost the will to live. Seems like characters that were needed.
     
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    With only a couple of notable exceptions, holograms aren't "alive."
     
  6. Alan Roi

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    When did Data become capable of forgetting?
     
  7. BillJ

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    Maybe Picard just talks really loudly in his sleep? :eek:
     
  8. jaime

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    When Control was introduced in the novels, it fucked me off. The closer I got to it turning up in DSC, the less interested I was, till I basically still haven’t finished series 2 even now. Section 31 and control are anti-ethical to the existing narrative arcs present throughout Trek, and they just plain poison the well.

    I love me some cyberpunk, and espionage thrillers. But much like I don’t have sweet and sour sauce in my coffee, I don’t want them in Trek and they just don’t work in Trek, or more specifically the Federation. It just hollows the whole thing out and removes some unique aspects of the setting.
     
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  9. Crewman6

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    yeah, but bashir's version wasn't as sophisticated as Data, hence why Bareil wouldn't have been "actually" Bareil if he had completely replaced his brain with the positronic implants.
     
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    What was the original point in including Section 31 anyway?
     
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    I'll be brief, because I want to watch a movie before bed, but I thought this was very well-done. The feel and pacing and tone were spot-on. The cinematography was gorgeous. Sir Patrick was spot on...the scene where he participates in the interview was powerful and gut wrenching because of his performance. The whole thing was perfectly subtle, thoughtful, and intriguing.

    It did its job....I want more right now.

    I have to go pinch myself. Star Trek, in 2020, has two first-run series airing, the newest of which features a legacy main character played by the original actor. We can't take this for granted. I never would have predicted this 10 years ago.
     
  12. Alan Roi

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    He's had them around a long time before he realizes that.
     
  13. jaime

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    I think ‘conflict’ in narrative is too easily misunderstood, and too easily leads to unpleasant actions or characters...which is fine if that’s what you want. Plenty of Star Trek writers got what ‘no conflict’ actually meant, look at Michael Piller. Some didn’t.
    To give a shining example, there’s a reason why Pulaski pissed off a lot of people, and why she just doesn’t really work on the enterprise.
     
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    Section 31 is one of those things you think is cool and so utterly profound when you're 14 years old. And then you grow up and realize just how silly it is.
     
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    Many people are broken for a long time before consciously realizing it. He likely brought them in as help, as they had nowhere to go.
     
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    Did anyone else feel a hole inside them to see more trek with Data being gone? It feels like something is missing when they talk about him in past tense :(
     
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  17. Alan Roi

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    Interesting view of the CIA as a stand in.
     
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  18. BillJ

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    That's life. We all suffer loss.
     
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    I really liked it. They managed to have a completely different tone from Disco. The two shows seem able to compliment each other without walking all over each other. Nice to finally see the Starfleet Museum.
     
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  20. cooleddie74

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    You mean the connecting rings of the thalaron wave?
     
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