Phasers in the Kitchen
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I like the points brought up.
I do think that Chekov had a derp moment. And its worth noting that she said a phaser set to maximum/vaporize set off alarms. Not kill. So that might not be a problem at all canonically.
I do think that Chekov had a derp moment. And its worth noting that she said a phaser set to maximum/vaporize set off alarms. Not kill. So that might not be a problem at all canonically.
Well, she was originally supposed to be half-Romulan Saavik, so there's that to consider.
As far as Valeris taking out the big ol' boiler, I thought the whole scene contrived. But I like to point to it when I insist there's no food replicators in the 23rd century.
As far as Valeris taking out the big ol' boiler, I thought the whole scene contrived. But I like to point to it when I insist there's no food replicators in the 23rd century.
Any cook would shoot you now with the phaser in the kitchen, as there is a H U G E difference between stiring and mixing.
Locked box on a military vessel, so no I don't find it strage. They may be cooks, but they would have had training in basic.
I guess the pressing question is, why were our heroes gathered in there in the first place?
It's in the middle of a frantic search for the assassins' gear. People all across the ship are tasked with the search (which probably rules out this being a hobby kitchen, because unless the cooking were crucial to ship operations, these people would have been ordered to participate in the search). For some reason, our top officers converge on this cooking facility. Valeris then holds her show-and-tell, and the near-immediate response is that a security team arrives with Uhura in tow.
Now, Uhura might have been rummaging through the aprons of the cooks next door. But she might also have been on the bridge at the time (considering no other top officer was, and somebody had to keep Starfleet in the dark about what was going on). This might suggest the galley is in the top superstructure of the ship - quite possibly serving the officers' mess where an important diplomatic meeting was recently held.
Perhaps the rank and file down below are mostly being fed by more thoroughly automated food processors, but the officers get "home-cooked" food for the variety and appeal. Gathering in such a facility basically right next to the bridge would then make good sense for our officers. That is, gathering in the lounge just behind the nearest doors would make the most sense - and wandering into the galley area might be something that became necessary because the lounge was being searched at the time.
FWIW, Shane Johnson's interpretation of the ship, based on Probert's original ideas, indeed places a "Kitchen Area" on B Deck, accompanying the Officers'/VIP Lounge.
(SJ also puts a brig on B Deck, apparently in the mistaken belief that TOS "The Enterprise Incident" ended with Spock taking the Romulan Commander to the brig on that deck. Instead, it seems Spock took the Commander to VIP accommodations, contrary to her expectations. But if there's a brig there, it makes plenty of sense for the security team to arrive in a timely fashion for a change, too.)
Timo Saloniemi
I am reading this thread with interest...
Am I the only one who thought that the purpose for Valeris firing the phasers was to set off the alarms, allowing the two perpertrators to shoot each other at close range? Her "show-and-tell" in the kitchen was to mask their use of phasers.
Or have I missed something really obvious here?
Am I the only one who thought that the purpose for Valeris firing the phasers was to set off the alarms, allowing the two perpertrators to shoot each other at close range? Her "show-and-tell" in the kitchen was to mask their use of phasers.
Or have I missed something really obvious here?
They didn't shoot each other. Valeris killed them.
Phasers on stun, close range. McCoy even wonders why they weren't simply vaporized, and Chekov says "It would have set off the alarm."
I don't know how many times I've seen that film (plenty, it's one of my favourites). I always thought that scene in the kitchen was to cover up their "suicide-pact". Just goes to show you what you can learn on here! The scene looks pretty surplufluous to my eyes now.Actually, thinking about it there is nothing in that dialogue that says they didn't do that to each other. Afterall, it would be quite difficult for Valaris to shoot them both at close range on stun. The only way we learn of Valaris' involvement in the plot is after Spock lays the trap for her and she comes to sickbay to finish the job they "could not finish" by themselves.
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