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Personal transporters---what??

The most interesting thing about a personal transporter is that it transports itself, so it manages rematerialisation while dematerialised. Impressive. Most impressive.

Unless there are two transporters in one... let's call them A and B. First A transports B to the destination and then B transports A + the person transported and they reassemble. A is kept motionless by a forcefield.
 
The quantum beacons? Not officially (at least nothing was mentioned in the dialogue), but it's possible. Those things were still part of the ship when the NX-01 encountered the Romulan minefield in season 2 and used them to detect the mines... so it wouldn't surprise me if Starfleet got the specs for those from Archer dating back to Season 1 ending or mid Season 2 and then integrated them into NX-01's main sensors with the Season 3 refit.

Its also possible Archer never shared the technology with Starfleet. Since he was convinced Daniels was from the future and in regards to temporal pollution that could occur (and as we saw in the episode he got the specs for those from Daniels when Archer and T'Pol were sifting through the database of the future, Archer was adamant to keep the info limited to the Suliban ship they were hunting for).
It's also possible that Daniels himself removed any and all traces of the technology from NX-01 and Starfleet as a whole the moment history restored itself at the conclusion of the Temporal Wars.

Plethora of options to consider.
But if the technology is there still, then its likely Danials figured it was supposed to remain in the past and Starfleet integrated it into its systems.

Oh for sure plenty of options but I'd like to think he did tell Starfleet of the quantum beacons and how to use them.

BTW Minefield and Dead Stop were amongst my favourite episodes. I always fancied that sometime in the future other ships encountered that space station.
 
The most interesting thing about a personal transporter is that it transports itself, so it manages rematerialisation while dematerialised. Impressive. Most impressive.

As bullshit as it admittedly seems I guess they're just following the direction of travel seen when Janeway and Leonardo Da Vinci beamed themselves to safety with that drinks flask-sized personal transporter and the combadge-sized one from Nemesis.

If Starfleet had the Nemesis version in 2379 they'd no doubt have something a bit better 800 years later.

I like to think that "personal transporters" have some kind of external infrastructure, like cell phones which appear to be autonomous at first glance but actually rely on a network of cell towers, GPS satellites etc to function.
I'm not sure this entirely works with how they're portrayed, but it makes me feel better.

Yes, devices that simply remotely hijack the nearest transporter seem perfectly plausible, but something fully self-contained is a lot harder to imagine.
 
Oh for sure plenty of options but I'd like to think he did tell Starfleet of the quantum beacons and how to use them.

BTW Minefield and Dead Stop were amongst my favourite episodes. I always fancied that sometime in the future other ships encountered that space station.

There were the ENT era novels which revisited this station.
 
Yes, devices that simply remotely hijack the nearest transporter seem perfectly plausible, but something fully self-contained is a lot harder to imagine.

Why?
Weirder stuff happened in Trek.
At any rate, its subspace technology - and it has phasing properties. By the 31st century, all you need for the thing to work is to send a strong enough signal to the desired coordinates and the person and transporter travel along the signal/transmission itself.
It stands to reason that fully self-contained transporter would have to be able to retain its ability to function during transit too.
Its 930 years after 23rd century... and 800-odd years after 24th.
Its possible transporter technology would undergo massive changes.
 
Why?
Weirder stuff happened in Trek.
At any rate, its subspace technology - and it has phasing properties. By the 31st century, all you need for the thing to work is to send a strong enough signal to the desired coordinates and the person and transporter travel along the signal/transmission itself.
It stands to reason that fully self-contained transporter would have to be able to retain its ability to function during transit too.
Its 930 years after 23rd century... and 800-odd years after 24th.
Its possible transporter technology would undergo massive changes.

Yes, as you say, that would represent a massive change in the function of a transporter - the device and the person using it would remain whole and creating a little wormhole/portal through which to travel. That's a fundamentally different process to the way transporters in the 22nd-25th centuries are said and shown to work - decomposing the person into an energy stream and recomposing them at the other end.
 
Yes, as you say, that would represent a massive change in the function of a transporter - the device and the person using it would remain whole and creating a little wormhole/portal through which to travel. That's a fundamentally different process to the way transporters in the 22nd-25th centuries are said and shown to work - decomposing the person into an energy stream and recomposing them at the other end.

Portable transporters aren't anything new though.
They existed since 24th century and we saw them in action twice. Once in a reality where Harry Kim ended up back on Earth and his friend ended up on Voyager, and a second time when Janeway was retrieving the computer core with DaVinci hologram.

A micro-wormhole would be a possible explanation, but I don't think they'd have to do this.
As I said before, Starfleet technology is subspace based and can operate in numerous phase states. As such, I see no problem in the portable transporter carrying itself and the person through subspace for example much like a starship would when entering warp.
Even when in energy form, its just another state for matter to be in... given programmable matter and massive passage of time between 24th and 32nd century, its possible the transporter simply operates in an energy state... and it wouldn't need to operate for very long while in that state to get the person to its destination... or it can operate for as long as its necessary to ensure safe arrival of the occupant.
Subspace is filled with energy, perhaps the thing is powering itself while in transit and maintaining pattern lock at the same time with vastly improved upon method which Scotty devised to put himself and (deceased) Franklin in.
 
Yeah don't forget the Kelvinverse where Khan had a little handheld transporter that beamed him all the way to Quo"nos from Earth
 
I thought they were transwarp beaming to other planets in Disco S03E01, I really want Trek to embrace transporters to the max and turn humans into a technologically-assisted proto-Q. Every teleport rejuvenates you so you never age and never get sick. Beam anywhere in the galaxy. If you die, your badge spawns a savestate duplicate.
 
I thought they were transwarp beaming to other planets in Disco S03E01, I really want Trek to embrace transporters to the max and turn humans into a technologically-assisted proto-Q. Every teleport rejuvenates you so you never age and never get sick. Beam anywhere in the galaxy. If you die, your badge spawns a savestate duplicate.

Ssssshhhh that's coming in season 4.

Added insta-dry feature for those moments or hours when you have to cry.
 
I like Frank Herbert's transporters much better than Star Treks; In "Whipping Star" they open a man-size hole in the space-time continuum and step through it. No bullshit dematerialization, no molecular crap. The body remains whole. That's the way it should be.:D
 
I like Frank Herbert's transporters much better than Star Treks; In "Whipping Star" they open a man-size hole in the space-time continuum and step through it. No bullshit dematerialization, no molecular crap. The body remains whole. That's the way it should be.:D

That's neat but that kind of thing would never have worked in Star Trek
 
That's neat but that kind of thing would never have worked in Star Trek
It is kind of how teleportation is depicted in Star Trek though, what with the transportees' movement, conversation and continued awareness that we see throughout various episodes and movies.
It also gets around the issue of just how much of a game changer the Transporter ought to be in terms of medicine and other areas
 
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