Black mechanics coveralls, with a small area of color at the shoulders, that's pretty "wackadoodle."The uniforms should look completely wackadoodle to our primitive contemporary sensibilities
Black mechanics coveralls, with a small area of color at the shoulders, that's pretty "wackadoodle."The uniforms should look completely wackadoodle to our primitive contemporary sensibilities
As you so graciously gave us permission to disagree, I will. Strongly. I'm saddened to see such gender essentialist and heteronormative bullshit spouted on this day and age.Opinion, feel free to disagree:
For human females, it would be a longstanding custom, and so generally acceptable in more public-facing stations, but not for grunt work. For human males, it may be more an expression of personal sexuality - orientation - so inappropriate for the role of an officer in most stations. Gender is not really coded into duty; but if you want to talk about biological sexual homogeneity, talk to me when men start having babies. Until then it would seem apparent that each sex has its own characteristics, and these may affect other social areas such as who you'd want teaching kindergarten or babysitting your kids, or fighting in the foxhole beside you - someone prone to "pitching" or "catching", to be indelicate.
Black mechanics coveralls, with a small area of color at the shoulders, that's pretty "wackadoodle."
I can honestly say I would have liked that. Riker in particular I could see opting to wear that variant.Can anyone here honestly say they would have wanted to see Captain Picard, Riker or Worf wearing skants in some episodes?
Yeah, Wesley's ugly sweaters do look bizarre. When he was promoted, he probably gave them to some Federation equivalent of Value Village, they were picked up by whoever was Voyager's equivalent of quartermaster, and that's how Icheb ended up wearing ugly sweaters as well.We keep judging the skant based on our contemporary viewpoints.
But I expect that human society and culture (including clothing) will be radically different in the 24th century. The uniforms should look completely wackadoodle to our primitive contemporary sensibilities, just as the stuff we wear now would have looked bizarre to someone who lived four hundred years ago.
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And you know this because you went back in time and peeked?Possibly they wore loin clothes underneath, but not on hot summer days, nope.
You're aware that peeps with furry faces can often have furry legs, right? lol You'll notice none of the extras who wore them had thatI can honestly say I would have liked that. Riker in particular I could see opting to wear that variant.
And? I'm sure Riker can shave his legs, like he shaved his face. Or not. What does it matter?You're aware that peeps with furry faces can often have furry legs, right? lol You'll notice none of the extras who wore them had that
If he chose not to, it would just be kind of awkward to look at that all day long is all. lol. I just can't see it being consistent with any kind of military dress code (For men or women). I mean if they wanted to hang around in 10-F or at the poker game, during off hours, dressed like that? Sure, why the hell not? but we're talking about a modern military type uniform. What kind of silliness would have to be going on in people's heads to think that it was in any way practical, professional, or proper... and yeah... it's the future, anything's possible, that they'd be unlike us, but they wouldn't very likely be THAT much different than usAnd? I'm sure Riker can shave his legs, like he shaved his face. Or not. What does it matter?
But as others have mentioned, in the past "skirts" have been practical, professional and proper, even in a military setting. And the people wearing them were not that different than us.What goes around comes around.What kind of silliness would have to be going on in people's heads to think that it was in any way practical, professional, or proper... and yeah... it's the future, anything's possible, that they'd be unlike us, but they wouldn't very likely be THAT much different than us
Not in a modern military setting,,, for daily use.... IN SPACE lolBut as others have mentioned, in the past "skirts" have been practical, professional and proper, even in a military setting. And the people wearing them were not that different than us.What goes around comes around.
It's not the modern military. IN SPACE! or otherwise.Not in a modern military setting,,, for daily use.... IN SPACE lol
Sure, but for that reason real militaries have different uniforms for different situations. The skirt might not be a great uniform for a landing party duty on a planet with rough terrain, but it is just fine if you're just doing some nice office work on a ship or a base.Looking at the history of military wear (no matter what denials Starfleet is in about its militariness) the clothes have evolved to be practical considering what is durable and good for all weathers. I see nothing practical about showing bare legs on any gendar (The TOS post Pike female uniforms are a joke) especially when the weather is extremely hot like Vulcan or cold likd Andoria.
No, it's more advanced than modern... In space lol, which would mean modern sensibilities and then some, IMHOIt's not the modern military. IN SPACE! or otherwise.
And that's a fair assessment, but what are the majority of the people we see doing? They're either on duty bridge officers, or crewmen engaged in ship operations, maintenance & repair. Not a whole heck of a lot of office work going on, & even those that might be at that, might be better off with a dress uniform length skirt than some mini shirt length thing. That's not gender bias, or conservative ideals or some other what have you. It's just practical. If you spill a cup of hot coffee, you won't want it all over you bare lap.Sure, but for that reason real militaries have different uniforms for different situations. The skirt might not be a great uniform for a landing party duty on a planet with rough terrain, but it is just fine if you're just doing some nice office work on a ship or a base.
Yes, better wear a hazmat suit to protect you from spilled coffee!And that's a fair assessment, but what are the majority of the people we see doing? They're either on duty bridge officers, or crewmen engaged in ship operations, maintenance & repair. Not a whole heck of a lot of office work going on, & even those that might be at that, might be better off with a dress uniform length skirt than some mini shirt length thing. That's not gender bias, or conservative ideals or some other what have you. It's just practical. If you spill a cup of hot coffee, you won't want it all over you bare lap.
Agreed. Security and engineering duties probably require more practical wear.Nella Daren. On most days, Nella Daren could get away with a modest below the knee skirt, or any of her male or female staff, but Geordi's or Worf's folks? No way
Modern sensibilities are constantly changing. Get back to me in two to three hundred years.No, it's more advanced than modern... In space lol, which would mean modern sensibilities and then some, IMHO
That assumes they are the only uniform.There are other problems with the skant uniforms than aesthetic. They're not plausibly practical as military uniforms. You can't carry anything in them and they don't provide protection form harsh environments. They seem like they'd also restrain your hip mobility.
I suppose it's possible in the enlightened peacetime future, military uniforms are designed for sex appeal first.
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