I'm glad you brought those two up, particularly Ewan McGregor as I bought him as a young Obi Wan Kenobi the very first time I saw him in TPM. Ewan made me believe he was a young Obi Wan Kenobi. Chris Pine made me believe he was James T Kirk. In my opinion, if you're going to bring an iconic character like that back, then you better damn well make sure that the actor you cast can pull it off. Otherwise it looks foolish.
Ewan McGregor was able to play a younger version of Obi Wan Kenobi that most people bought.
Can we pin this to this thread and have it automatically reply when the ongoing complaints about Wesley as Kirk continue on? Or should I just ignore this and Kirk and move on?
Point: this misses it.Ewan McGregor was able to play a younger version of Obi Wan Kenobi that most people bought.
I'm not expecting him in Quality of Mercy.
We're going to have to disagree on Pine. Admittedly this isn't really Pine's fault, but what the writers chose to do with their timeline Kirk more than anything.
If you can't handle difference of opinion on a forum then maybe you should move on.
Ewan McGregor was able to play a younger version of Obi Wan Kenobi that most people bought.
But it's still a different actor playing a different version of the character without all the experiences that the Alex Guiness version had. The point stands.
Oh, I can handle it. It's the repetition that's interesting, as well as missing the point.
Kirk doesn't have the same experiences in "A Quality of Mercy." I would not expect Kirk to act like he did until TOS in that episode.
Exactly. Kirk, like Pike, is different because of choices made. Pretty sure that's the basis of the whole episode.
Personally I think the best version of Kirk was the season 1 version. Same with Spock and McCoy. In season 1 they all had observable flaws and there were plenty of things Spock didn't know.
I've been doing a rewatch of TOS and I have to agree. I'm at that mid season two point now and the quality is certainly starting to drop. Rodenberry was certainly obsessed with episodes about god like beings toying with the crew. I read somewhere that Shatner "hammed it up" when he knew he had a bad script. Not sure how accurate that is but I do prefer his character in season 1 as compared to season 2. Not sure how far I'll get through season 3 as so many of those episode are just unwatchable.
Sorry are we not allowed to complain about Wesley's performance of Kirk on the Wesley's performance of Kirk thread.
We're allowed to say that dull, repetitious complaints are dull and repetitious.
As we are about the dull repetitive shutting down of those complaints.
That's not what I said. I was noting that the complaint about him not being like Kirk misses the point that it was an alternate time line Kirk so I would not expect him to be like TOS Kirk. The repeating of it feels very much like it misses the point of the whole episode!
