Paul Wesley's incarnation of James T. Kirk
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Oooo who is that sexy man????I don't think it's all suit
Tyler Hoechlin. Currrenly Superman in the "Superman and Lois" TV show,
He would have been a hot Spock! Maybe he still can be one day…
Don’t care that he doesn’t look like Shatner though I think if they found the right actor who did it would have been a bonus
But he had zero charisma to portray the most charismatic space character of all time.
I didn’t particularly like Chris (Luke Skywalker Solo Kirk ) pine but he has charisma in spades
and quite frankly This actor needs to go on the juice, pickup some weights and eat many chicken breasts
Christian Bale had a better physique in the Machinist and I’ve seen Versace runway models with thicker necks
In an otherwise very joyous and near perfect season,…
Please recast
But he had zero charisma to portray the most charismatic space character of all time.
I didn’t particularly like Chris (Luke Skywalker Solo Kirk ) pine but he has charisma in spades
and quite frankly This actor needs to go on the juice, pickup some weights and eat many chicken breasts
Christian Bale had a better physique in the Machinist and I’ve seen Versace runway models with thicker necks
In an otherwise very joyous and near perfect season,…
Please recast
The lack of physical similarity doesn’t bother me (although a couple of times I was distracted by how much lower his forehead was!)…my problem was Wesley’s complete lack of charisma. Shatner’s performance has been unfairly maligned over the years when in fact he was an outstanding, highly charismatic series lead who shone and commanded the screen in every scene (admittedly much to the annoyance of certain cast mates at times). This just felt like some random, utterly forgettable guest star. Maybe he will grow into the part. I kind of wish SNW would just ease off on the legacy characters, though.
I don't think it's all suit
There is some trickery afoot though. Watch for views of him as Clark and look for how small his chest and shoulders appear compared to this image.
It couldn’t possibly be a ‘deep fake’?
They can’t deep fake Data let alone Shatner so maybe it’s an Instagram filter.
Yeah. I believe the trickery is to digitally carve off some beefcake when he is Clark.
Perhaps our dreams are an alternate universe doppelgangers reality.This has important implications on metaphysical, quantum and philosophical levels. Possibly on other levels that I have not been made aware of too. In a true multi verse any one can be anything or anyone at any time if we want them to be, and no one would ever know the difference as we all perceive the multiverse though our own perception and experiential existence so we can use our imaginations to ‘de-buff’ what is being dictated or enforced on to us. If we disagree with something we can agree to differ and view the difference through our own narrative and perspective which is acceptable to us and allows our opinion or impression to run parallel with that of another view or interpretation which differs. This is like us creating our own parallel universes in our minds. This means we can all get along because even if we see something differently we see it abstractly in a parallel way that is acceptable from both of our perspectives. I could look at Kirk and see a women, you could look at Kirk and see a man. Someone else could look at Kirk and see a ‘they’ or even a toaster. We are all looking at the same character though. Maybe Kirk should be portrayed in an ’artistically fluid way’? We are all looking at the same character as previously mentioned, we are just projecting our own physical perception of the character through our own unique lense? We have our own imaginations. We do need to respect the original intentions of the people who created the characters though, as they had a vision and as Star Trek fans we should try to respect this and make sure that TBTB follow canon. As long as a character embodies it’s original artistic intention as intended by their creator, physically it should not matter how they are portrayed? They do need to keep it realistic and not try to push boundaries for the sake of it, or to troll Kirk fans… we are still only human and we like familiarity. No one should change things for shock value or to make a point though. If it is not broken then there is no need to fix it. Kirk was never really broken, so in my mind he does not need to become a women… yet.
I rewatched BoT earlier and just with the screen paused on Kirk looking at the viewscreen and, damn, he just commands everything with his look. Throw-in how he walks, talks, and just his general everything and it's a level of charisma only seen in Epic-Level DnD characters.
Pine barely achieved the lower threshold of this to pull off what was -really- sort of a "parody" or caricature of Kirk (as most of the Kelvin cast were of their characters) but he pulled something off to make it work.
Wesley gives us nothing to work with. Nothing to find a Kirk in.
No one is expecting him to come in a start doing the "Pausnia" way of acting or doing Shatner impressions (Pine didn't even do it) but there needs to be something there to work with. If you're going to bring us a Kirk, you bring us a Kirk not a ham sandwich.
Wesley could be a great actors, I've no idea. This isn't a criticism on him a an actor this is just a criticism on him being given a difficult part where he's going to be compared and criticized by a tough fan base with its most favorite character.
The show runners messed up, they didn't set the bar high enough. And, really, it's a bar they should have stayed away from. They should have saved Kirk for the very, very, end. The final moment when he sits on the bridge for the first time.
But now, well, we have more of this coming. Something, we didn't need. They shouldn't have gone there. Stick with Pike and his adventure, don't go to Kirk. Why? Why do that and bring yourself to that comparison unless you're sure you have it?
I don't think it's all suit
Yeah, they get his shirt off often enough to prove that he's got the physique.
I think he diets and works out for six weeks and then they shoot every Shirtless Clark shot altogether on his peak day.
It's what fans seem to want. Despite the sentiment expressed here I see positive reception from fan articles, as well as expectations for Kirk.
Is it needed? Hell no. Is it expected? Yup.
Pike was featured in a number of novels released throughout the 2010s, the most recent prior to Desperate Hours being in 2015. The depiction of of Pike in DH is very much in line with those novels.
I'm kind of surprised Kirk wasn't in the first episode--sitting on his bike staring at the Enterprise in her berth at the Riverside Dockyards...
Whoops, wrong timeline...
Still one of my favorite scenes.I'm kind of surprised Kirk wasn't in the first episode--sitting on his bike staring at the Enterprise in her berth at the Riverside Dockyards...
Whoops, wrong timeline...
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