Pacific Rim - Grading and Discussion

[Admiral2]

I have no love for animé(hate is too strong a word), yet I LOVED PR, so your point is kind of nullified.

Or, you're the exception to the rule. I'll wait for more responses that are similar before I abandon my hypothesis.

I am not really familiar with any anime. Other than "Spirited Away" (which I loved), I have no knowledge of it.

My love for this movies stems from the Ray Harryhausen and Godzilla movies that I loved as a child.

One more exception I guess!

But one more step to my complete reversal on the subject...maybe...

 

[Tulin]

A friend tried to show me "Princess Monononononke" when I was in the US several years back and I fell asleep.

 

[Tulin]

But the ironic thing is, I LOVED Japan growing up and have visited the country twice. I just find their animation......off.

 

[Goji]

I'm no fan of anime either, but I'm a huge Godzilla/Kaiju fan (my username is in fact derived from the Japanese name for Godzilla).

 

[sojourner]

But the ironic thing is, I LOVED Japan growing up and have visited the country twice. I just find their animation......off.

Check out Akira. It's the "go to" movie for those uninitiated to anime.

 

[Christopher]

^I think if anyone doesn't love Princess Mononoke, then anime is pretty much a lost cause for them.

 

[RAMA]

I guess they marketed the movie wrong. I have no desire to see the movie myself. The trailers alone just smelled of "battleship" type lame movie.

Word of mouth - even on the good "fanwank" reviews -- movie too long, plot holes, etc.

So why bother.

Grown ups 2 sucks as well... looks like a weekend to skip the movies.

Despicable Me 2 was funny at least.

-Chris

Um no...This was about a million times better in every area than Battleship.

I think the marketing for this movie was terrible. Only geeks who got excited about the very concept of "mechs" fighting monsters and knew about the director, had any enthusiasm. I got absolutely no vibe or buzz from this from the non-geek casual audience. Watching the trailers, I see nothing that distinguishes this from Battleship or any other generic action flop, it comes across as a movie trying to cash in on Transformers with giant robots. It needed either better marketing/trailers, or a big name actor.

The marketing was just fine, the odd thing is that even a lot of "geeks" aren't going to see it. It IS a shame, however I don't really care at this point, Im glad it's out and Im going to see it again tomorrow with some family.

If this movie had been bad...guilty pleasure, but since it was great, no guilt at all.

RAMA

 

[Noname Given]

One of the funnest movies I have seen in a long time, I had a complete blast, laughed a lot, loved the cheese and the fights were spectacular. It was basically "Fuck it, this is awesome and we're doing it" as far as plot goes, there were so many times where stuff kinda didn't make sense but was so awesome you overlooked it. I was smiling and chuckling so much at how crazy shit got at one point. Can't wait to see it again.

A+

^^^
Agree with this 100%. I didn't go for the plot; I went because it was just a big Giant Robot VS Big Alien Monsters slugfest (with a lot of funny character moments, which was unexpected but welcome); and yeah, the overall plot was just there as background - and if you try to think about it too hard, it doesn't really hold up; but it wasn't supposed to.)

I probably won't go see it again in the theatre; but I will get the Blu-Ray for sure.

Also be sure to stay through the end-credits as there is an easter egg that's absolutely hilarious (it might be groan worthy for some but I LOVED it - and it had me laughing loud.)

 

[Tulin]

Can somebody please post what the easter eggs/post main credits stuff are?

I didn't stay as I heard there was nothing and cannot find any info out there about it.

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

Can somebody please post what the easter eggs/post main credits stuff are?

I didn't stay as I heard there was nothing and cannot find any info out there about it.

Spoiler: Pacific Rim

Ron Perlman's character is still alive and cuts his way out of the dead baby Kaiju. He looks around and angrily asks "Where's my shoe?"

 

[DarKush]

In an earlier post someone felt that the kaiju looked too similar, but I thought that was something of an explanation for that in the film. I did like how the film gave something of a reason for why the kaiju were invading Earth. It sets him a potential sequel. Hopefully the film will make enough to warrant one.

Yeah I understood the reasoning they gave, but I still think there was room in that explanation for more variety in design than we got.

Besides, it's the kind of movie where you kinda expect them to break a few rules for the sake of having something really cool on screen.

Fair enough. I did like the creatures that we got, but I would not have minded if there had been more and more variety as well. Same with more Jaegers.

 

[Tulin]

Oh - so that was the significance of the shoe abduction bit.

 

[Tulin]

And OdoWan Kenobi - when reading your sig, I cannot help but hear the theme song to the segment on Hollywood Babble-on, "....if it's not fucked up by Ryan Reynolds".

LMAO!!!!

 

[PsychoPere]

Those of you who hate anime won't understand or care.

I have no love for animé(hate is too strong a word), yet I LOVED PR, so your point is kind of nullified.

Or, you're the exception to the rule. I'll wait for more responses that are similar before I abandon my hypothesis.

Abandon it. I'm in the same boat as Tulin.

 

[Gojira]

I'm no fan of anime either, but I'm a huge Godzilla/Kaiju fan (my username is in fact derived from the Japanese name for Godzilla).

Same here on all points!

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

You don't have to be a fan of anime or kaiju films to enjoy Pacific Rim. You just have to be a fan of entertaining movies.

 

[Phily B]

I have no love for animé(hate is too strong a word), yet I LOVED PR, so your point is kind of nullified.

Or, you're the exception to the rule. I'll wait for more responses that are similar before I abandon my hypothesis.

Abandon it. I'm in the same boat as Tulin.

Me and my friend too, though we're certainly aware of it. I kinda grew out of it years ago.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Sigh. Looks like Grown Ups 2 is going to win the weekend after all. PR will be lucky to get $40 million.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3701&p=.htm

What. The. Fuck.

Why would anybody see the sequel to that shit?

This sounds like what happened in 2010 when Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World got trounced by The Expendables and Piranha 3D-unfair, and stupid. People say they want intelligent and good sci-fi films, and yet, instead of supporting them, they support shit like Grown Ups 2?

I hope that word of mouth does save it, indeed.

 

[Christopher]

Here's an apropos article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/07/12/why-its-not-pacific-rim-versus-grown-ups-2/

Box office is not poker. It’s not about new releases and holdovers attempting to make more money than the other movies in the marketplace. Box office is blackjack, where it’s only the film itself against ‘the house’. ‘The house’ in this case being an individual film’s budget and specific (reasonable) expectations about what would qualify as success. If Pacific Rim opens with $30 million, it will arguably not be a domestic success even if it’s number one for the weekend. If Pacific Rim muscles its way to $50 million, it will arguably be a success whether it’s in first place of tenth place. The individual numbers are what counts. It doesn’t matter how high a film debuts, nor does it matter how long it stays in the top five or top ten of the box office. It’s about how much money a specific film makes in relation to how well that specific film has to perform.
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And come Sunday morning, Pacific Rim and Grown Ups 2 should be judged not over which film topped the other, but by how much each film debuted with in relation to their own specific box office needs. The studios don’t care how much all of the films in the marketplace made in a given weekend if their film tanked. And studios don’t care if their film was number one or number two, as long as the actual weekend gross is to their liking. Paramount was thrilled that World War Z opened with $66 million last month and they surely didn’t care too much that Monsters University was still the top film of that weekend. And if Pacific Rim can open substantially higher than its tracking (and/or make a killing overseas), Warner Bros. surely won’t care too much if it makes more or less than the likes of Grown Ups 2 or Despicable Me 2. And we shouldn’t care either.

Reporters turn things like political races and movie box office into horse races because they believe it'll boost their own ratings if they can make the news look like sports. So they manufacture head-to-head competitions where none exist.

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

Except that's not really the discussion to be had. The thing that bothers me is that box office numbers indicate that more people would rather go see a completely brainless, vulgar, and unfunny piece of garbage like Grown Ups 2, than would like to see a movie that is actually of a considerable quality like Pacific Rim. It's a sad indicator of the state of our culture.