P/C run amok...
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I suppose it could be that she stands up to him, but then again I don't think that that could be the main reason: having someone disagreeing with you all the time can be quite annoying, and I doubt whether Picard was interested in Pulaski, who also had that quality. My guess would be that he enjoys her moral insights and humour.
The publication of Death in Winter is getting nearer and nearer. There's discussion in Trek Lit and an interview with mjf in trektoday. (Too lazy to do links)
Who's going to buy it and what do we hope for?
Who's going to buy it and what do we hope for?
^^^ I must admit that I'd totally forgotten about it until I saw the thread in Trek Lit. Some fan I am. 
Certainly I'll run out to my local Borders the day that it's released; I will then sit there for an hour or two and skim through the thing. The odds that I buy it won't be very high, unless I'm extremely impressed; there aren't many Trek novels that I consider worth buying new anymore. But we'll see...
Oh, and odds are that I'll have read all the spoilers first. I'm not sure that I *want* to be surprised when reading this one. (Same thing as with Captain Jack's fate at the end of this series of Doctor Who; I wanted to know it so that it wouldn't be as much of a shock if it turned out to be bad news.)
As for what we hope for... I'll settle for good writing.
Certainly I'll run out to my local Borders the day that it's released; I will then sit there for an hour or two and skim through the thing. The odds that I buy it won't be very high, unless I'm extremely impressed; there aren't many Trek novels that I consider worth buying new anymore. But we'll see...
Oh, and odds are that I'll have read all the spoilers first. I'm not sure that I *want* to be surprised when reading this one. (Same thing as with Captain Jack's fate at the end of this series of Doctor Who; I wanted to know it so that it wouldn't be as much of a shock if it turned out to be bad news.)
As for what we hope for... I'll settle for good writing.
Got to worry about their sales if the High Priestess isn't intending to buy it. But my copy is on order 
(yes, job, money: I can afford this little luxury, I know I know).
(yes, job, money: I can afford this little luxury, I know I know).I suppose my fear is that it won't be as P/C as it promises... he doesn't strike me as particularly skilled at drawing characters, which is what this novel ought to be all about.
But perhaps I'm being unfair. I did really enjoy reading the wedding scene. If the rest of the book lives up to that, I think I will buy it (in paperback).
But perhaps I'm being unfair. I did really enjoy reading the wedding scene. If the rest of the book lives up to that, I think I will buy it (in paperback).
I already bought it on Amazon, I'm supposed to get it the day it's released. *taps fingers*
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I suppose my fear is that it won't be as P/C as it promises... he doesn't strike me as particularly skilled at drawing characters, which is what this novel ought to be all about.
But perhaps I'm being unfair. I did really enjoy reading the wedding scene. If the rest of the book lives up to that, I think I will buy it (in paperback).
Ironically I'm not sure I liked that excerpt. Nice to see Jack of course but our author doesn't like to leave things to chance does he? Not a lot left for a reader to work out for themselves.
OK. Maybe this is sour grapes because it rats out a fanfic I was working on.
The part that I objected to was the fact that <span class="spoiler"><font class="small">Spoiler:</font><hr /><span> the Romulan seems instantly able to tell that Jean-Luc is in love with the bride, when Jack, Walker, and apparently Beverly as well, all seem totally oblivious</span><hr /></span>. Is this what you're talking about?
On the other hand, I'm always happy to see Walker Keel, my own pet character, figuring in a scene. Not to mention "tall and athletic" Jack Crusher. So perhaps that's what I'm responding to.
Oh yes.
And frankly I prefer longer paragraphs. I could rant some more, but I'd be being two-faced given that I really really want to read this book.
Don't even get me started on the style of Star Trek novels.
I'm perfectly prepared to admit that I've spoiled myself a bit, though, given that my idea of a normal sentence length is moulded by Victorian writers, and particularly by Anthony Trollope.
Back to the actual topic of the book, though. In a sense I'm surprised by how upset so many people are about the rumours of what might happen. Since when did books become canonical? Personally I am planning to assess the novel in the same way that I assess fan fiction: if the plot is believable, convincing, and adds something of value to the Star Trek universe, then I will believe it. If not, not. I don't feel bound to uncritically accept everything that an author does with the characters.
Do other people feel differently?
Only what airs on screen is actually considered canon. Original versions of the scripts, books, and fanfiction are not canon. Consider one of our favorite profics, the wonderful book "I, Q" by Peter David and John de Lancie. <span class="spoiler"><font class="small">Spoiler:</font><hr /><span> There is a scene close to the end where Q sees the female superbeing standing off in the distance in the guise of his wife, Lady Q. Picard sees the same female superbeing but to the captain she appears to be Vash.</span><hr /></span>Do we love the book? Yes!
Is it canon? No. Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
I suppose the acknowledgement that we're not going to get any more movies or tv - TNG IS DEAD - means that we naturally turn to the licensed publications as the next best source. They may not be canon but they have a quasi-legitimacy status and there's glossy covers to boot.
The rumours of a loss of a major character would probably cause outrage no matter what the source. I'm sure if I said I was maybe going to murder Vash (just kidding W N) in a fanfic I'd get slammed too. But I'd probably promote the controversy just to get more readers. There's a reason we're hotly discussing Death in Winter and I don't think it's because we want to know how the Romulans are getting on post-Shinzon.
The rumours of a loss of a major character would probably cause outrage no matter what the source. I'm sure if I said I was maybe going to murder Vash (just kidding W N) in a fanfic I'd get slammed too. But I'd probably promote the controversy just to get more readers. There's a reason we're hotly discussing Death in Winter and I don't think it's because we want to know how the Romulans are getting on post-Shinzon.
Isn't it the truth?
I've decided that I love Death in Winter, and do you know why? Because there is now a P/C thread in the Trek Lit forum that's all of 61 posts long, and the book hasn't even come out yet. We're going to have to watch our credentials as the premier P/C thread on the board...
That's nothing compared to what a lot of P/C shipper writers love to do to Vash. We still get flamed by certain elements of the P/C shippers for not casting Vash as the evil whore who came between Picard and Crusher. We guess the difference is we're used to it. We do agree the writer is probably trying to drum up interest in the book by coyly playing upon P/C shippers' hopes and fears.
Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
The fact that it's set before the Titan books suggests that no one too important is going to be killed off (otherwise surely it would have been mentioned by Riker or Troi).
It seems that he may be putting their potential relationship to rest for a while, though, meaning that no more professional authors will be writing about it for a while (not that many have written about it anyway)!
It seems that he may be putting their potential relationship to rest for a while, though, meaning that no more professional authors will be writing about it for a while (not that many have written about it anyway)!
Personally I'd rather be cast as an evil whore than be murdered, but maybe that's just me.Posted by Whoa Nellie:
^ Given just those two choices then I would too.
I rather like Vash. I guess I'm just not a hardcore P/C shipper after all.
I rather like Vash. I guess I'm just not a hardcore P/C shipper after all.
We've seen both, sometimes in the same story. In our opinion, Vash is a smart, sexy, fun character to play with.Posted by mon capitaine: I guess I'm just not a hardcore P/C shipper after all.
We're not touching that. That is up to your fellow P/Cers to decide. Whoa Nellie quietly tiptoes back to her unusual shipper pairing corner. 
Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
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