There's DoctorBeverly, and occasionally we see ActionBev...and then there's OutragedBev...
P/C: our thread is eternal
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With Picard, TNG canon has given us a rich, multi-faceted character to play with; one who reads ancient Greek and Latin classics and Shakespeare as well as hard-boiled detective novels. He plays the flute as well as rides horses, fences, and does a little rock climbing. He drinks tea as well as Aldebaran whiskey. He is a diplomat who appears to have a certain degree of special ops training.
IMO, like the TOS episode "The Enemy Within" did with Kirk's character, TNG's episode "Tapestry" does a beautiful job of showing that it takes both the erudite and well as the "Hell bent for leather" ensign who was stabbed through the heart in a barroom brawl facets to make Picard the flagship captain.
Since I enjoy writing "bodice-ripper" style stories using the Picard/Vash pairing, my stories do focus more on 'Action Picard' because that is the facet that the Vash character draws out.
WillsBabe said:
Whoa Nellie said:
Cool! Speaking of fanfic, I really should be working on my next P/V story.
You should...
I know, I know, I'm stalling. The next P/V story in the pipeline is going to be plot intensive, unlike "The Temptation of Jean-Luc Picard." Even I don't consider Vash showing up in the guise of an Orion slave woman to surprise Jean-Luc an actual plot point and I wrote it. 
I promised my kids I'd take them for ice cream this afternoon. After that, I'm planning to sit down and work on the plot outline for the next P/V story. Hi! Interesting question and I look forward to reading the discussion on it. I need to get going the natives here are getting restless for their promised ice cream trip.
Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
Whoa Nellie said:
Since I enjoy writing "bodice-ripper" style stories using the Picard/Vash pairing, my stories do focus more on 'Action Picard' because that is the facet that the Vash character draws out.
But it's also the "BrainyPicard" that Vash is attracted to as well, correct?
WillsBabe said:
*clears throat*
That sounds like an interesting part of the story...and conjures up all sorts of scenarios, most of them involving leather and incense.
Admiral Valeris said:
Whoa Nellie said:
Since I enjoy writing "bodice-ripper" style stories using the Picard/Vash pairing, my stories do focus more on 'Action Picard' because that is the facet that the Vash character draws out.
But it's also the "BrainyPicard" that Vash is attracted to as well, correct?
I would say she appreciates the whole package.
"From the moment I met you I knew you were going to be trouble." Picard
"You look like a man who could handle trouble." Vash
.....
"You know Jean-Luc, it's lucky for you we met. If it wasn't for me, you'd still be back there sitting in the sun... relaxing." Vash
"That happens to be why I came to Risa." Picard
"I'm sure you hated every minute of it. That kind of vacation isn't for a man like you. You need excitement." Vash.
......
"You're a man of many talents, Jean-Luc." Vash to Picard in Captain's Holiday.
Admiral Valeris said:
*clears throat*
That sounds like an interesting part of the story...and conjures up all sorts of scenarios, most of them involving leather and incense.
Vash surprising Jean-Luc as an Orion slave woman was the plot (if you want to call it that but I consider the word plot to be a bit of a stretch) of my most recent P/V story "The Temptation of Jean-Luc Picard." It was only posted to ASC and my P/V website because if I had tried to edit it down for Fanfiction.net or TrekBBS only about three words would have been left.
I'll admit it was a heck of a lot of fun to write! WillsBabe said:
I would never consider writing any such thing!
Oh, never.
Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
Very good summary there.
And since I tend to be interested in more intellectual characters, that is the side of Picard that I prefer to focus on. There are so many men in movies and television shows who are typical action heroes, but how many heroes love reading Shakespeare and Latin, and make it look cool? It's a shame to waste that side of Picard.Since I enjoy writing "bodice-ripper" style stories using the Picard/Vash pairing, my stories do focus more on 'Action Picard' because that is the facet that the Vash character draws out.
Actually it's a shame to waste the archaeologist side of him too; you would think that Vash would bring that out as well, but somehow I never got the impression that their affair included much of a meeting of the minds. I mean, she's smart, but it strikes me that she is more interested in the monetary rewards of archaeology than the intellectual ones. Which is not Picard's approach at all.
Naraht said:
Very good summary there.
Thank you.
A good number of the P/V stories focus on Picard and Vash's mutual love of archaeology; Speaking in Tongues, Eye of the Beholder, The Goddess Faqtor (A 2004 ASC Award Winner), The Wolf with the Red Roses, Divergences (A 2004 ASC Award Winner), Patterns of Behavior, A Brigand's Devoir, and recently Siren's Ring. Many more of the stories reference it in some way. I've always seen Picard's love of archaeology playing into his love for action/adventure. While doing some canon research for my story Spelunk This, it came to my attention that for all of Picard's professed love of archaeology he destroys quite a few of the artifacts he runs across, an Iconian gateway, a Promellian battle cruiser, the Tox Uthat and The Stone of Gol. In my stories there is a long running joke of Vash referring to these as Jean-Luc's litany of archaeological sins.
In my writing I always keep in mind that Vash is the archaeologist, not Picard. He doesn't call the shots in her lab or on a dig site (unless an emergency develops) anymore than she would call the shots on the bridge. Vash had found the Tox Uthat on her own before Picard had even known it was on Risa. (Edited to add: Vash also stops Picard from handing the Tox Uthat over to the two Vorgons correctly pointing out they might be the ones who attempted to steal it in the first place.) She acts much the way the other archaeologists shown in TNG act. Before meeting Picard on Risa she spent five years working as a personal assistant to Professor Samuel Estragon, an archaeologist who's work Picard knew. It was Professor Samuel Estragon who hired the Ferengi Sovak to aid in his explorations, especially in situations that weren't quite ethical. Moreover, Picard isn't surprised at all and is amused by the idea. (3rd season episode Captain Holiday.)
Also in the 6th season episode "The Chase," Picard's own mentor Professor Galen comes aboard the Enterprise and attempts to BRIBE the captain with a Kurlan naiskos, very rare archaeological artifact, wanting Picard to leave his captaincy to become Galen's muscle. In contrast, the horga'hn statue Vash gives Picard when she seduces him in the beginning of Qpid is simply a common trinket often used as a souvenir.
Vash is a female Indiana Jones. Toward the beginning of Raiders, Jones is trying to get Marcus Brody to buy some artifacts for the museum from him so he can afford to chase after the one Belloq took from him. Jones is referred to as an obtainer of rare antiquities. Pretty much sums up our girl Vash.
With close to 80 stories in the entire Whoa Nellie collection, the focus switches back and forth between plot intensive and fluff, along with combining the two in quite a few cases. I remember someone once referring to it as the thinking woman's smut. I took that as a huge compliment.
Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
Whoa Nellie said:
I would say she appreciates the whole package.
And how.
Vash surprising Jean-Luc as an Orion slave woman was the plot (if you want to call it that but I consider the word plot to be a bit of a stretch) of my most recent P/V story "The Temptation of Jean-Luc Picard." It was only posted to ASC and my P/V website because if I had tried to edit it down for Fanfiction.net or TrekBBS only about three words would have been left.
Plot works...kinda. Maybe "Vash surprising Jean-Luc as an Orion woman was the push of the story"...
And I really need to get up to date on your stories! Oy vey...
WillsBabe said:
I would never consider writing any such thing!
I've written some smut with a friend...it's not the most interesting of things I've written...
Admiral Valeris said:
Whoa Nellie said:
I would say she appreciates the whole package.
And how.
That would be an accurate description.
Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
^Hehehe...in more ways than one, I'll assume.
Hmmm...I have a question. In the installment of the fanfic I'm working on, I left off with Picard and the crew of the Stargazer having just been cut off communications-wise by a Cardassian vessel. Should I write out the battle scene, or skip to the part where Picard sends Jack Crusher off to help the ship, and, essentially, his death?
Hmmm...I have a question. In the installment of the fanfic I'm working on, I left off with Picard and the crew of the Stargazer having just been cut off communications-wise by a Cardassian vessel. Should I write out the battle scene, or skip to the part where Picard sends Jack Crusher off to help the ship, and, essentially, his death?
That really depends on what you want to emphasize with the story. If the battle scene is going to provide important and pertinent subject matter vital to the telling of the rest of the story by all means include it. (In these situations, Mr. Whoa Nellie, my military advisor, usually pinch-hits and helps me write the scene.
) If you feel the battle scene really isn't vital to the story you want to tell go ahead and write around it. Just be careful that you fill in any necessary background for the reader.Hope this helps.
Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
^Thanks!
It does, actually. The only reason the battle is here is so that the Stargazer gets damaged and Picard has to send out some crew to either fix or detach a warp nacelle...apart from that, it's not overly pertinent.
It does, actually. The only reason the battle is here is so that the Stargazer gets damaged and Picard has to send out some crew to either fix or detach a warp nacelle...apart from that, it's not overly pertinent.
You're welcome!
Glad I could help.Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie
I care about where it leads to, but...
But yeah, that's different than being interested or excited about the scene itself. I find that the lack of commitment shows in my writing if I try to force something that I'm not passionate about.
Speaking of which, I'm *really* looking forward to the next installment in your fanfic. Bring it on!
Sorry for the double post, but I've just been thinking...
There's been a lot of discussion of Picard/Vash in the thread recently. Much of what is said is very interesting, but it's not related to P/C and could arguably be construed as a little bit disrespectful to those of us who are here to discuss P/C and related topics.
Maybe it's because I'm primarily a fan of Beverly, but I'm kind of worried that the thread is turning into a "drool over Picard and his women" sort of thing and ending up neglecting the good doctor.
So... I was wondering whether it would make sense to start a separate thread where we could talk about Picard/Vash and all that good stuff. Just a thought.
There's been a lot of discussion of Picard/Vash in the thread recently. Much of what is said is very interesting, but it's not related to P/C and could arguably be construed as a little bit disrespectful to those of us who are here to discuss P/C and related topics.
Maybe it's because I'm primarily a fan of Beverly, but I'm kind of worried that the thread is turning into a "drool over Picard and his women" sort of thing and ending up neglecting the good doctor.
So... I was wondering whether it would make sense to start a separate thread where we could talk about Picard/Vash and all that good stuff. Just a thought.
I can write a combat scene, but in this case it just didn't seem to really be completely necessary.
I'm trying. I shocked myself with the lack of Beverly so far.
She could still pine...just while she's getting the only quiet five minutes during her day.
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