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Other Ships Snagged by the Caretaker
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In Prodigy, there's the wreck of a Klingon BoP crashed on a planet in the Delta Quadrant that Gwyn and the others take shelter in. There's absolutely no indication of how the ship got there (although curiously Gwyn seems to know all about Klingons.) I suppose the audience is meant to assume that the Caretaker originally brought the BoP to the DQ.
Why not? It's not as if the Borg probably wouldn't be able to breach the surface and reach them. They might be interested in some of their latent psychic abilities, since that could help them come closer to 'perfection'.
The Ocampa that stayed on the homeworld didn't develop any abilities. At least, we never found out if they did. They didn't seem interested in those 'fairy tales', as many of them didn't even believe they had those capabilities.
And since they only lived 9 years, there would be no incentive for the Borg to assimilate them.
The Ocampa on Suspiria's station, on the other hand, are likely worthy of assimilation.
And since they only lived 9 years, there would be no incentive for the Borg to assimilate them.
The Ocampa on Suspiria's station, on the other hand, are likely worthy of assimilation.
Starfleet have encountered races with active psychic abilities. The Borg is probably well aware of a whole bunch of them (including a bunch Starfleet never have met). The Ocampa would be of little interest to them.
True, but the Ocampa seem to have a very wide range of those, even if most of them have these only in a latent form. Not just telepathy, but also telekinesis, the ability to manipulate the atomic structure of matter, enhance flower growth, crack computer encryptions just with her mind... we've seen Kes do all of these things, way more than we've ever seen a Vulcan or a Betazoid do. That level of potential ability might be rare.
I've heard it suggested that the CDS Vetar (Gul Evek's ship) was also taken, but I doubt it.
The Vetar was damaged, it would have been of little use to the Caretaker. Heck, it probably wouldn't have even survived the trip.
The only episode that might suggest otherwise is "The Voyager Conspiracy" but under the circumstances few things in that episode can be taken at face value.
The Vetar was damaged, it would have been of little use to the Caretaker. Heck, it probably wouldn't have even survived the trip.
The only episode that might suggest otherwise is "The Voyager Conspiracy" but under the circumstances few things in that episode can be taken at face value.
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I am a big fan of Evek so I would have been happy to see him again, either in Voyager or even in DS9. I think they could have done something interesting with an anti-Starfleet idea, Evek deliberately meddling in planet affairs, or put him on the other side of the Maquis conflict, that he is now the guerilla (although that could have worked if he'd come back on DS9 in the later seasons too). I don't know if I like this idea but at some point, you could even put him in alliance with Seska and the Kazon. In an alternate universe I think it would be wild even if there were no Maquis and it was just the Vetar crew joining Voyager.
On the Hera, nowadays I think that ship shouldn't return and it just be unknown what happened, but back in the day I thought it was a given it would show up. When my friend told me Captain La Forge appeared in "Timeless" I was like "Yes, finally!"
You should like what the novelverse did with him. Evek is said to be one of the most powerful men in the Cardassian fleet, and a posting - ANY posting - on his ship is considered the peak of any Cardassian's military career.
The Maquis ship Lynx was transported to the Delta Quadrant by The Caretaker about six months or so before Voyager.
Story "Coming Home" on the Kes Website.
The Lynx?
The only Maqui ship transported to the DQ was Chakotay's ship from VOY pilot episode 'Caretaker' (that I know of)... of which we don't know the name.
Janeway mentioned to Tom Paris (who was in a rehab facility at the time), that Chakotay's ship went missing in the Badlands a week ago.
That scene was supposed to take place on Earth (in New Zealand).
Depending on how long it took Paris to get to DS9 with Stadi... VOY probably arrived in the DQ about 2 or 3 weeks after Chakotay and his ship did... unless it was under 1 week.
Despite this, Chakotay and his crew were held as captives for all that time on the Array... whereas VOY's crew was released after 3 days only (along with the Maqui crew).
The Maqui ship probably should have been released long before VOY arrived and fled the scene once the Caretaker released them... probably encountering Neelix too and then only approaching the array once they noticed a Federation ship materializing at the Array.
No worries. I've seen far more awkward posts/replies here during my 16 years here
Nope!
The Maquis ship Lynx under command of Supreme Commander Bohumíl Novák, a Maquis and friend of Chakotay and Paris was also transported to the Delta Quadrant about 6-11 months before Voyager. In 2377, the ship and the crew had been involved in a conflict where they were protecting a people from being invaded by another local power, led by a megalomanic dictator.
Kes encountered the ship in the beginning of 2377 (February or March) after being restored back to a normal corporal being by Q, although with a human lifespan. later on Kes and the Lynx crew encountered Voyager and with the help of the Voyager crew they could stop the invasion and continue the journey back to Federation space. The Lynx, now with Kes as a crew member continued on its own and found a wormole whch took them to the Gamma Quadrant where they finally found the more known wormhole which leads to Deep Space Nine and that area.
All that is to be found in the stories Coming Home and Strange Dreams which can be found on The Kes Website.
Chakotay's ship is called Liberty in some books and Val Jean in later episodes and books. I guess it's a matter of taste which name is the better. I prefer the Liberty, don't know what the name Val Jean symbolizes.
Your time estimation about Chakotay's crew and the Voyager crew when it comes to arriving to the delta Quadrant and the time of captivity at the Caretaker's array seems correct. But I can't understand why the Caretaker kept Chakotay's crew captive a longer time than the Voyager crew. Probably the result of some writer who didn't bother with details.
By the time Voyager arrived the Caretaker was in more of a rush. If he'd tested the Voyager crew as thoroughly as he tested the Maquis he would've been dead before the tests had finished.
Likely the reason why the Maquis ship is called Val Jean is because Eddington named it... he loved LES MISERABLES, and he likened himself as that character. We have no idea how long he was working with them before he finally cut all ties from Starfleet in "FOR THE CAUSE". Could very well be from the very beginning of their formation.
Nope!
The Maquis ship Lynx under command of Supreme Commander Bohumíl Novák, a Maquis and friend of Chakotay and Paris was also transported to the Delta Quadrant about 6-11 months before Voyager. In 2377, the ship and the crew had been involved in a conflict where they were protecting a people from being invaded by another local power, led by a megalomanic dictator.
Kes encountered the ship in the beginning of 2377 (February or March) after being restored back to a normal corporal being by Q, although with a human lifespan. later on Kes and the Lynx crew encountered Voyager and with the help of the Voyager crew they could stop the invasion and continue the journey back to Federation space. The Lynx, now with Kes as a crew member continued on its own and found a wormole whch took them to the Gamma Quadrant where they finally found the more known wormhole which leads to Deep Space Nine and that area.
All that is to be found in the stories Coming Home and Strange Dreams which can be found on The Kes Website.
Chakotay's ship is called Liberty in some books and Val Jean in later episodes and books. I guess it's a matter of taste which name is the better. I prefer the Liberty, don't know what the name Val Jean symbolizes.
Your time estimation about Chakotay's crew and the Voyager crew when it comes to arriving to the delta Quadrant and the time of captivity at the Caretaker's array seems correct. But I can't understand why the Caretaker kept Chakotay's crew captive a longer time than the Voyager crew. Probably the result of some writer who didn't bother with details.
The novels aren't canon though... so, you'd be incorrect about that.
I consider most of what's written in the novels as "canon", at least when it comes to the Voyager novels written during "The Kes years". I won't comment on the others since I haven't read all of them.
The novels from seasons 1-3 are easily placed in the Voyager Timeline. There are a few contradictions here and there but no problems just to mentally skip them, just like the "fast forward button on a DVD player.
Some of those novels are so good that they should have been made as two-part TV episodes, especially The Black Shore by Greg Cox and Marooned by Christie Golden.
Why not visit the Kes Website (link at the bottom of this post) and visit the Voyager timeline and read the book reviews with comments on possible contradiction.
As for Kes, when she was dumped from the Star Trek Universe, new canon started to be created in the Kes Universe!
