And it seems she then killed someone not by accident. My money is on that union rep.
Since they are taking the worms out of the subjects after some time, could they be absorbing DNA or something?
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And it seems she then killed someone not by accident. My money is on that union rep.
Since they are taking the worms out of the subjects after some time, could they be absorbing DNA or something?
That would be a stupid question, but does the show take place in Canada or the USA? I know it's shot in Canada, but where it is set?
The whole first season I assumed we were in Canada, then by the third season I was convinced we're in the US, and now after last episode I am back to thinking we're in Canada. At first everything looked very Canadian, then S mentioned how she loves the “gun laws of this country”, and I think they name dropped some US states, then last episode there was a line that suggested we're in Canada though I can't seem to recall it anymore.
What colour is their money?
It's deliberately vague about the setting, as is typical of Canadian shows meant to be marketed in the US, but there's plenty of evidence that it's set in Canada and most likely Toronto, particularly the unambiguously Canadian currency the characters use (seen clearly in this week's episode, and last season when Helena, err, retrieved the bag of Donnie's money from the drug dealers). Alison lives in a neighborhood called Scarborough, which is the name of a Toronto suburb, and there are Toronto Police Service logos on the police station.
Yeah, I now recall, that thing last episode wasn't a line, they paid somebody with Canadian dollars.
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I think they've been making it more obvious that it was in Canada. Would love to go to that area in Toronto where Rabbit Hole Comics should be. I learned on the After the Black show that the laundromat was right across the street.
And the Hendrixes' tradition of horrible decision-making continues unabated. Oh, man. And of course the police choose that day to drop by. I'm surprised they didn't notice the stench of a decomposing body clinging to Donny when he came in. The episode sure made a big deal of the smell in the garage scenes, but they forgot that scents linger. Oh, and while we're at it, it can't be a good idea to confess to a homicide on a Skype call, can it? How secure is that transmission?
A bit implausible how quickly Felix found his birth sister, even with online gene-matching or whatever. But I guess maybe he's been looking for a while. From what Rachel said, the gap between seasons was about 6 weeks.
I don't like where Kira's storyline seems to be headed. Please, not another magic precognitive Star-Child. This show's science has been so solid up to now, but if Kira's getting prophetic dreams or visions, that's straight-up mystical BS and I will be so disappointed. Please let it just be that she's supersmart and able to extrapolate likely patterns of events from prior evidence, or something.
I'm a bit surprised to see a Castor again. I somehow thought Mark was the only one left, although I'm not even sure of that part. I bet this Castor's name, Ira, is a nod to the actor, Ari Millen.
A bit implausible how quickly Felix found his birth sister, even with online gene-matching or whatever. But I guess maybe he's been looking for a while. From what Rachel said, the gap between seasons was about 6 weeks.
I don't like where Kira's storyline seems to be headed. Please, not another magic precognitive Star-Child. This show's science has been so solid up to now, but if Kira's getting prophetic dreams or visions, that's straight-up mystical BS and I will be so disappointed. Please let it just be that she's supersmart and able to extrapolate likely patterns of events from prior evidence, or something.
I'm a bit surprised to see a Castor again. I somehow thought Mark was the only one left, although I'm not even sure of that part. I bet this Castor's name, Ira, is a nod to the actor, Ari Millen.
It is. On After the Black, they said that Ira was Ari spelled backwards. I wouldn't have noticed but that was pretty cool.
That was a disgustingly and creepily cool episode tonight. Yeah we saw Leekie's head, and Ferdinand came back, but all that stuff was just really cool.
Loved the Hendrix storyline. Donnie and Alison make for such a great, yet stupid team. One would have thought though the police officers would have smelled Donnie. I'm surprised they didn't. I guess they were lucky because if the cops found out there was a dead body in the garage it's game over. The stuff with Helena was also great. Loving the misdirection of the trailers so far. Everyone saw the picture of Donnie and Helena standing at the door and I think we all thought it was Alison. To have it be Helena was great.
I hope they don't turn Kira into this supernatural being. I accepted going back to season 1 that she is unique and she might have powers we don't know about yet, but tonight she was a little out of character.
I still like where the Felix story is going, but that can't be his biological sister. If it is, I hope the writers have a good explanation for it because it seemed a little easy to find her. Of course Felix has been off screen quite a bit in the early going and he's been trying to find his family for 2 months now so maybe it isn't out of the realm of possibility that that is his actual sister.
Overall good episode that kept the plot moving. Loved seeing Rachel again and we got some good stuff with Susan. She's a bit of a bitch, isn't she. An interesting bitch, but a bitch nonthaless.
The suggestion that Kira has precognition has been going for some time. She already knew things that she couldn't have known in the past, with this seemingly being the only explanation. Not to mention that Helena, who happens to be special like Sarah and Kira and pregnant with two, was able to tell the cops things she supposedly didn't know. It's becoming more than suggestion at this point, and comes at the same time when a mind-control bug is introduced. I hope we are wrong and it's not that. It will be a serious minus for the show, which has been above going supernatural so far, and has managed to be mostly nonsense-free. Though it may work well for Kira's character, I must admit.
We can hope it is a combination of her being really smart, and a lot of coincidence, which may still work. Alternatively, I could also stomach it if it turns out she also has the brain control bug, and the things are networked and she can tap into it. When she was not herself, and threw everything on the floor, I kinda wondered if she wasn't mind-controlled. But even that's not an entirely pretty way out.
The episode was terrific otherwise. I love how Rachel's story is unfolding so far, and it is like if we're finally getting to know her character. The Hendrixes are priceless, and I come to like them, even though Alison is my least favourite of Tatiana's characters.
We can hope it is a combination of her being really smart, and a lot of coincidence, which may still work. Alternatively, I could also stomach it if it turns out she also has the brain control bug, and the things are networked and she can tap into it. When she was not herself, and threw everything on the floor, I kinda wondered if she wasn't mind-controlled. But even that's not an entirely pretty way out.
The episode was terrific otherwise. I love how Rachel's story is unfolding so far, and it is like if we're finally getting to know her character. The Hendrixes are priceless, and I come to like them, even though Alison is my least favourite of Tatiana's characters.
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They did resemble each other. And she said she'd submitted a genetic sample to some online relative search, so I suppose Felix did the same. Anyway, I hope his birth family is just his birth family and not some Neolutionist plot or something. It gets contrived when every character is linked to the Vast Conspiracy.
Countless charlatans have depended on people believing that supernatural powers were "the only explanation" for things that could be done with clever deduction, observation, and psychological manipulation. Kira could just be extremely intelligent and observant, good at deducing things from evidence most people don't notice, and it would seem paranormal to others. That would fit in with the scientific realism the show has stuck with so far. Bringing in precognition would destroy OB as a hard-SF show forever, and that would be tragic, since there are so very few of those.
As Alison said to Donnie, Helena's a trained assassin. It's her job to observe details. She's been living with the Hendrixes for the past couple of months and would've had plenty of opportunities to pick up this information. Donnie was just surprised because her normal personality leads people to assume she's a flake who's out of touch with reality. This wasn't a suggestion that Helena has oogy-boogy psychic powers, just that people underestimate the sharpness of her mind.
At this point, we only have one person's uncorroborated guess that "proximity to the brain" has some significance to the implant's purpose. It's a pretty huge leap from there to "mind control."
I think it would ruin Kira's character, because it would reduce this smart, charming kid to a cliched stock character type dragged off one of the dustiest shelves of the cheesy-SFTV idea warehouse.
Hey, now that I could actually buy. Group consciousness is right up there as one of the possible goals of a human-augmentation movement (see the "New Humans" in Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek: The Motion Picture novelization), and it's something that could potentially be achieved by cyborg implants that would network people together wirelessly. I think Cosima did wonder if the implant was hooked to one of Sarah's nerves, although I'd think a more direct brain connection would be necessary.
Still, being networked to the Neolutionists (the transhuman version of Married to the Mob?) might tell Kira about their plans and intentions, but it wouldn't let her sense that the Clone Club might decide to burn Sarah. Or maybe the Neos are feeding her "visions" to turn her against the Club.
I'm torn about the Hendrixes. Their storylines are kind of painful to watch, but in a disturbingly funny way. And Alison is one of Maslany's most impressive creations, because it's so damn easy to forget she is Maslany. I keep having to remind myself it's the same actress. Admittedly, though, a lot of that is simply the bangs.
The Hedrixes are the Dark Ricardos. Lucy and Ricky seen through Neil Gaiman or Tim Burton's twisted brain. They're simultaneously hysterical and apalling.
I guess they just made Cosima an accessory to murder by telling her what happened. She's still the cleanest of the clones, though.
Corpse smell! Every time I watch Bones and they're working on a body in the big open lab, without any kind of face masks, with dozens of employees flitting about, I wonder. Maybe the writers should have their faces jammed into a week-old roadkill and see if they're surprised.
I guess they just made Cosima an accessory to murder by telling her what happened. She's still the cleanest of the clones, though.
Corpse smell! Every time I watch Bones and they're working on a body in the big open lab, without any kind of face masks, with dozens of employees flitting about, I wonder. Maybe the writers should have their faces jammed into a week-old roadkill and see if they're surprised.
And watching that scene, I was thinking without Delphine, Cosima is less annoying this year than last year. I know Delphine will show up eventually (Or not, but I don't think she's dead) but for these last few episodes, I've appreciated the return of Season 1 Cosima.
The actress is the lead in 10 episodes of X-Company per year as well.
She may also feel the need to sleep sometimes.
She may also feel the need to sleep sometimes.
Donnie could have passed the smell off as fertilizer is asked, or if the writers had thought of that point.
As far as Kira, we still don't know what that "thing" was in her medical scan from the end of S1. I always assumed that was her abdomen. Any way Sarah could have been implanted before she got pregnant?
As far as Kira, we still don't know what that "thing" was in her medical scan from the end of S1. I always assumed that was her abdomen. Any way Sarah could have been implanted before she got pregnant?
I think there's a clear difference between the smell of fertilizer and the smell of a putrescent human body. At least, on the crime procedural shows, they're always talking about the unmistakable stench of "decomp." And fertilizer may be kind of pungent, but it's not a stench so overpowering that it makes you vomit instantly and repeatedly.
This point is why I'm not "concerned" with the Kira storyline yet because it's always been there since season 1, especially when she got hit by the car and healed really fast. Also, she has been feeling neglected by Sarah, especially since she kept asking about Cal not being there. Still, I would prefer if the show didn't make her like Starbuck from BSG and have her be an angel or something. I'm hoping there is less supernatural and more scienc-y since this show seems to be based more of the science level.
^Yes, exactly. Kira being transhuman and having rapid healing or heightened intelligence is plausible, sensible science fiction. Kira being transhuman and having woo-woo mystical mind powers is lazy, cliched sci-fantasy claptrap. There's a pretty huge difference.
Ignoring the last episode, which could be any number of things, the last time she demonstrated some kind of precognizant power was when they were in their arctic hideaway. I assumed that was just because her eyesight was ridiculously exceptional and she saw the lights before anyone else could see them, considering she was staring out the window at the time.
But if the events she predicted this episode comes true, I'm afraid we'll be having genuine psychic phenomenon on the show. With that, obviously, being one of the main goals whoevertheheck (I still haven't figured out which company/organization is the main one responsible for everything, they keep jumbling it around) were after in their attempts to speed up evolution.
She also sensed the cop coming when they were with Cal, so she also has to have incredible hearing. And she immediately recognised her father, which is a stretch even if she's very observant and smart.
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