opinions on Twin Peaks?
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I always thought that since Bob had been influencing Leland for so long (ever since Leland, as a child, first met Bob at the lake) that Bob was just 'capitalizing' on Leland's repressed incestuous feelings toward his daughter. This is fairly clear in the film, anyway.
Perhaps. But I think the question is: would Leland have done what he did, had he not been possessed by Bob?
Thinking something is a lot different from doing it. People have all sorts of nasty shit bubbling up from the septic tank of the subconscious, all the time. But most of us flush it right back where it came from.
Leland may have had the repressed feelings that you suggest--but without Bob enabling them, they might have remained firmly repressed.
Hence, his horror and remorse, when Bob leaves him, and he realizes what has happened.
I'm just going to agree with this and add that one of the strongest draws for me was the Lynchian atmospherics. Eerie, idealistic music set over truly horrifying scenes, ambiguous yet surprisingly consistent characterizations, and the slow introduction of Bob (who still scares the crap out of me) stand out.
It's also good to note that most if not all of the "clues", generally dropped as cryptic riddles, do actually pan out, with the exception of the ones in the latter post-Laura storyline, which of course may have panned out if the series had continued. The series finale stand out as one of the most frustrating in a long line of unresolved cliff-hangers, unfortunately.
As far as the "soap opera" elements go (which I assume means interpersonal dynamics), they are well integrated into the mystery and atmosphere and are not a pandering afterthought, if that's what you're worried about.
If Bob had never existed, and thus Leland never encountered him, then maybe not. Ordinarily I would think that any sick fuck who had thoughts about doing his own *daughter* would try anything, but in this case, Bob might have been responsible for that anyway, due to their years of history.
I mean, I doubt it's as clear cut as something like "Wolf in the Fold" (from TOS). Nobody seriously thinks that Scotty would have killed those people if he hadn't been possessed by Jack the Ripper at the time. That time it was easy to understand: Jack possesses people, uses their bodies to kill, then leaves, without the 'host' being aware or even conscious (and thus not responsible) of anything that happened in the interim. But in Twin Peaks' case, I don't think it's that simple.
Besides, after Bob's "episodes", does Leland remember anything about what happened? Wouldn't he get suspicious if Laura happened to say something about it?
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If you're going to post spoilers hide them as the OP hasn't seen the show yet!
Anyhow, fantastic show. Buy the Gold Box Edition as it has the Pilot. The original release did not. Its well worth it so long as you remember that it was made in 1990.
I think a lot of it still holds up today. Its certainly better than a lot of shows on today.
Anyhow, fantastic show. Buy the Gold Box Edition as it has the Pilot. The original release did not. Its well worth it so long as you remember that it was made in 1990.
I think a lot of it still holds up today. Its certainly better than a lot of shows on today.
I've only seen bits & pieces of it. I liked Agent Cooper but the rest didn't really speak to me.
Hey, does anyone know if the Gold Box includes "The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer" by Jennifer Lynch?
I have two copies...one that's worn out and falling apart and one I stumbled on in near-mint condition at the used section of Barnes & Noble a couple years back for about $2. I believe it's been out of print for well-over a decade but I see Amazon has used copies selling for super-cheap and some for super-expensive!
I've got a few other Peaks publications as well (including a few issues of the fanzine "Wrapped in Plastic"), plus a Tourist Guide to Twin Peaks co-written by Mark Frost, but I never did get a copy of "Diane: The Secret Tapes of Agent Dale Cooper" on cassette. Though I see there are bootlegs and used copies for sale on eBay. I may have to look into that.
I have two copies...one that's worn out and falling apart and one I stumbled on in near-mint condition at the used section of Barnes & Noble a couple years back for about $2. I believe it's been out of print for well-over a decade but I see Amazon has used copies selling for super-cheap and some for super-expensive!
I've got a few other Peaks publications as well (including a few issues of the fanzine "Wrapped in Plastic"), plus a Tourist Guide to Twin Peaks co-written by Mark Frost, but I never did get a copy of "Diane: The Secret Tapes of Agent Dale Cooper" on cassette. Though I see there are bootlegs and used copies for sale on eBay. I may have to look into that.
Unfortunately, no. That would have been a cool special feature--I've never read it.
The secret diary is cool...since Lynch's daughter wrote it, it's designed to be a companion to the show (especially since it becomes a plot point)...it details Laura's life since age 13 and her first encounter(s) with BOB.
It even has intentionally missing pages (as was shown on the TV show, a number had been torn out). Very sordid, but very insightful to who Laura REALLY was and not the homecoming queen/meals on wheels/goody-good so many perceived her as.
"Laura had SEEEEEEEcrets...."
It even has intentionally missing pages (as was shown on the TV show, a number had been torn out). Very sordid, but very insightful to who Laura REALLY was and not the homecoming queen/meals on wheels/goody-good so many perceived her as.
"Laura had SEEEEEEEcrets...."
It was one of the tv wonder of the 90s, a unique tale of the spooky, convoluted lives of these hickville townsfolk who all find their lives twisted in some way after the murder of Laura Palmer. What brings the show together is the combination of Lynch sytle, fantastic soundtrack, top actors and good story telling of some twilight zone style crime detection techniques
You sound like one of those idiot attention seekers who chat on their phones at the cinema
You sound like one of those idiot attention seekers who chat on their phones at the cinema
