Message boards are pretty outdated, I imagine most of the fandom is on some social media platform like Twitter. Most of the people on message boards are older, which is why you see more outdated views.
Spoilers On Seven and sexuality
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I love being called old.
That’s why I said “most of” and not all. That means that there are also young people. Reading the entire sentence is pretty important in understanding it.
It was a joke.
I once had a client guess I was 50 and another call me a "gray bearded SOB"
Being call old is nothing new for me
Queueing in line for beer outside the shop, the other day, the guard enforcing social distance told me that only the olds are going to die from corona, and people like us were going to sail through fine.
I'm twice your age buddy, I tell him.
He responds that I am exaggerating because he's 23, so theres no way that I'm 46.
The CW must have boards, even if no one uses them.
Molly's girlfriend was on that Canadian time travel show Continuum as a bad ass, who happened to also be a lesbian, Garza, and 15 years earlier she was a waitress on The L Word.
Her credentials are sound.
I'm twice your age buddy, I tell him.
He responds that I am exaggerating because he's 23, so theres no way that I'm 46.
The CW must have boards, even if no one uses them.
Molly's girlfriend was on that Canadian time travel show Continuum as a bad ass, who happened to also be a lesbian, Garza, and 15 years earlier she was a waitress on The L Word.
Her credentials are sound.
You might find this hard to believe, but it's possible to have criticisms about a show and not be angry.
Indeed, hard to think of any other reason why LGBT folks need to be expunged from sight in Trek.
Okay. You made your point. You don't approve of the SJW quota filling. Try another subject.
For example: what's a positive thing you like about Doctor Culber or Paul Stamets?
For example: what's a positive thing you like about Doctor Culber or Paul Stamets?
I haven't read the first 30 pages. But I don't think I'm wrong in my idea of how it's probably gone, which is why I've stayed out of it.
I have no problem if Seven is bi. Or if she realized she's a lesbian. I never bought her romance with Chakotay. And in "Someone to Watch Over Me", it felt more like Seven was exploring romance the way people, particularly The Doctor, were telling her it was "supposed" to be.
Once she was in the Alpha Qudrant, and off Voyager, she had a chance to find herself outside of such a restricted setting with so many people watching over her.
I have no problem if Seven is bi. Or if she realized she's a lesbian. I never bought her romance with Chakotay. And in "Someone to Watch Over Me", it felt more like Seven was exploring romance the way people, particularly The Doctor, were telling her it was "supposed" to be.
Once she was in the Alpha Qudrant, and off Voyager, she had a chance to find herself outside of such a restricted setting with so many people watching over her.
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Exactly. Of all the facts that Trek could be celebrating it is the potential of human freedom and the power of choice.
That's a common experience for a lot of LGBTQ people. Our society just assumes being straight and cis as the default. It's in every aspect of our lives and is pushed on us from birth and even projected onto us before we're born. A lot of people grow up and just assume that's how they're supposed to be because that's what we're surrounded by and all try to fit in with everyone else. Even if you reject some part of that, you go try to fit in with some social group. With sexuality you may not really realize how you feel because you can't really compare it to how others feel and just assume they feel exactly the same way and just don't say it.
Seven was surrounded by straight people and had the assumption of straightness assigned to her when she hadn't really developed as person yet. She was childlike in certain ways, that's why they would pair her up in scenes with Naomi Wildman and have them have some comparable moment of growth that spurred on Seven's arc. I imagine Seven got back to Alpha Quadrant, she probably tried to experience as much of her homeplanet as possible out of some curiosity to farther her learning about being a human. She ended up in some bar Janeway told her about during long nights on Voyager when she made some Irish coffee. She met some lady who was studying the Borg and had seen her on the news. They chat and drink, things happen, and then Seven learned some new things about herself.
I do really hope that if Seven is going to be a regular next season they explore her backstory once she got back from the Delta Quadrant, giving some excuse to show more of the Voyager cast, but really focus on her.
Nothing about Culber. When he becomes an actual three dimensional character maybe he'll be interesting but until then...
Stamets can be fun to watch on rare occasions, when he's more light-hearted, but only because the rest of the cast are so terrible.
Culber is a seemingly generically nice character and I enjoyed the fact that he, of all people, became the apocalypse Godzilla of the fungus people.
Stamets is obnoxiously self-righteous in the way I've known many academics to be and feels very true to life.
Stamets is obnoxiously self-righteous in the way I've known many academics to be and feels very true to life.
And I still remember the Doctor (of all "people") "tutoring" her on romance. He even presented her with a list of egligible people on voyage... All men, of course! Even at the time, I thought, WTF!
I hope so, too.
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Yeah. Both reminded me of people I know in real life in terms of personality quirks and traits. Culber draws me in because he is that nice, caring, person. Someone I would totally expect in the medical profession. Compare even to other Trek doctors and Culber is probably one of the nicest you'll meet.
Give me nice guys.
It actually benefited the fact he was struggling in his marriage and to BE the nice guy he used to be while suffering from PTSD in Season 2.
I agree. Even if one thinks her being Bi or Gay is something that was not intended back when they conceived the character it is a change that works and makes sense on a creative label. Which has happened before. I don't Xena and Gabby were suppose to be lovers but then it made sense once you watch the show. On Buffy Whedon didn't know if he was going to have Willow or Xander turn out to be gay and I think was even setting it up with Xander with the Larry stuff but I think he made the right choice.
Jason
Julian Bashir didn't start out as genetically-enhanced but that's where the character went.
I wouldn't call what Stamets was going through PTSD. I think chronic Depression is more likely. He wasn't haven't hallucinations or even intense anxiety to a point where he couldn't do his job. He was cleared to do that and even helped out so I am thinking more Extreme Depression.
Jason
I really liked how they had Culber reacted to being brought back from the dead. They didn't have him go back to normal as if nothing happened. He was traumatized by it and still hasn't really been able to fully recover.
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