I said something to him a few posts above about doing the same thing with another poster; but yes, this would be another example.
Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?
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Getting back the entire TNG Cast for PIC Season 3 was a one-time thing to give them a Proper Ending. That's not happening with DS9. Not without Avery Brooks and Rene Auberjonois. Plus Niners seem to be happy to leave things with "What You Leave Behind" and I think they'd have a hard time accepting a full-on DS9 Continuation without Ira Steven Behr involved. They might do it with the VOY Cast. Might. But more likely, if Legacy has any TNG/DS9/VOY Characters (why am I saying "if"?), it'll be back to PIC Season 1 and 2 levels.
Anyway, to get this back on topic: Let's talk about Strange New Worlds... 
... and how it relates to Legacy!
DSC Season 2 ended in April 2019. SNW was formally announced in May 2020. Active discussions about the series had begun in January of the same year. (source)
So serious discussion for SNW didn't begin until nine months after DSC Season 2 ended, and then it took another four months for a formal announcement. The two-year delay for the series premiering can be blamed on Covid, so that wouldn't apply to Legacy.
Based on that timeline, this is how things would look for Legacy if they were exactly the same as SNW...
The only difference now is that we have to see how much merger with Showtime will help things (or change things) for Paramount+.
... and how it relates to Legacy!
DSC Season 2 ended in April 2019. SNW was formally announced in May 2020. Active discussions about the series had begun in January of the same year. (source)
So serious discussion for SNW didn't begin until nine months after DSC Season 2 ended, and then it took another four months for a formal announcement. The two-year delay for the series premiering can be blamed on Covid, so that wouldn't apply to Legacy.
Based on that timeline, this is how things would look for Legacy if they were exactly the same as SNW...
- April 2023: PIC Season 3 ends.
- January 2024: Serious talks about Legacy begin.
- May 2024: Legacy is announced. By happy coincidence TNG ended 30 years ago this month, the perfect time to make such an announcement!
The only difference now is that we have to see how much merger with Showtime will help things (or change things) for Paramount+.
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this would be kinda late. First of all we only have the information Matalas/Kurtzman provided us with. For all we know, they could have consulted with their superiors, the moment the first hype ratings came in. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’d formally announce ST Legacy within the next 8 weeks.
Right now, they can still ride on their wave of success. If they pick up talks as late as January 2024, the bean counters will give them a hard time. Squeeze the orange, when it’s still fresh…
They won't do nothing for May 23rd, 2024. So maybe new cast additions announced then, or a teaser?
I think an announcement would come before the end of this year, within 3 months of the WGA strike ending (which can only run for about 3.5 months before union unity would fall apart according to different analysts).
Here are some of the factors I see in play:
Here are some of the factors I see in play:
- Both DISCOVERY (first three seasons) and PICARD (all seasons) were largely funded by external sources (Netflix, Amazon)
- DISCOVERY likely had a 3+2 year deal
- SNW was the first live action NuTrek series to be solely funded by Paramount... does Anson Mount have a 3 year deal? an option to extend to 4 or 5 seasons?
- How well will SNW season 2 perform relative to SNW season 1?
- How well has PS3 performed compared to other STP seasons and vis a vis DISCOVERY/SNW?
- Did PS3 bring in new viewers that hadn't watched earlier STP seasons or Disco+SNW?
- Did PS3 viewers take up other Star Trek content? If so did they stick with seasons to the end or fail to complete them? Did they get into the Taylor Sheridan stuff or that Kiefer Sutherland project or ______?
- There is some kind of Janeway/Seven miniseries in the pre-planning stages... could that be rolled into Legacy?
- Is Khan going to stay a podcast, or could it get upgraded to a live action miniseries?
- How in demand will Terry Matalas be after the strike?
I would say this part is unlikely, as iirc, it was originally planned as a miniseries, then downgraded.
Studios always have an out. Even if Anson has a contract, P+ can opt to not renew the show.
The Screen Actors Guild contract expires in June.
The last thing the studios need right now is a double whammy of WGA AND SAG going on strike.
I wonder what the nature of the contracts Mount, Peck and Romijn signed were? Also when they were signed. I assume Ryan, Hurd and Speleers must have some sort of agreement in place. Maybe just a “handshake” as this stage. In watching the Shuttlepod Show I’ve discovered many things about the industry. Like actors being paid not to take on another job, in case a particular role or show comes up.
It's basically the same timeframe between the end of Disco S2 and the announcement for SNW was made.
How in demand was he before the strike?
Wasn't Matalas already signed on to do a show for one of the other streaming services? Maybe Amazon Prime? I'd assume he's still obligated to that, and combined with the strike, it could be a while before he even has a chance to get to Legacy.
According IMDB he has one upcoming credit with "Witch Mountain" which I am assuming is a Disney+ show but could be wrong.
Matalas said at the end of the new All Access Trek Podcast that he has a deal at Paramount/CBS now (or maybe he's had one for a while and this is the first time he's mentioned it) to make shows for them and wouldn't say or commit to what it he's doing over there. Obviously the strike means everything is on hold though.
He's been busy with something the last ten years give or take. TERRA NOVA, NIKITA, then 12 MONKEYS. He was a consulting producer on a SyFy series, wrote some potential pilots for CBS, then signed a deal with CBS. Instead of immediately ending up on a Star Trek, he ran MACGYVER for 2/3rds of its fourth season. An upcoming project is co-writing the screenplay for a Bewitched project at Sony.
Yes, this pilot filmed in Toronto last December.
This deal started around 2019 and runs until sometime this year.
PICARD season 3 has apparently been well received by MCU head Kevin Feige and the President of 20th Century Studios, so he'll be on many people's radars moving forward.
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