That was George's Intent, plus he only did it once the Emperor started killing him.
Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]
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Well if you're falling back on the author's intent, then the authors of Obi-Wan say Reva's actions are meant to be redemptive (or at least a sign she's willing to seek redemption).
WTF is this bullshit?
Reva not only spared Luke, she discarded her Sith weapons. Those are clear signals that she has defected from the Sith. She turned away from the path that Vader had followed and refused to kill who was in effect a new Youngling. She may not have earned complete redemption for her sins, but she has begun walking the path of the righteous.
Oh yeah, and although it occurred while she was still struggling under the spell of the dark side, and it wasn't for the right reasons, she did try to take down Vader.
I hope for more of her adventures. She is one of the more interesting things to come out of O-WK.
Reva not only spared Luke, she discarded her Sith weapons. Those are clear signals that she has defected from the Sith. She turned away from the path that Vader had followed and refused to kill who was in effect a new Youngling. She may not have earned complete redemption for her sins, but she has begun walking the path of the righteous.
Oh yeah, and although it occurred while she was still struggling under the spell of the dark side, and it wasn't for the right reasons, she did try to take down Vader.
I hope for more of her adventures. She is one of the more interesting things to come out of O-WK.
Yeah, how is this even a debate? The creators' intent is clear. Who cares if she doesn't do it the way WE would prefer her?
I'm interested in seeing Reva try to help a Rebellion cell in a low-key way, but hiding her background. Maybe she forswears "The Force" altogether since she can't untangle the Dark Side from the Light on her own without any Jedi Masters to aid her. Eventually someone recognizes her from her Inquisitorius days, and the plot thickens.
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First of all, everyone has good and evil within themselves. Even Obi-Wan had failed to "untangle the Dark Side from the Light" before his death and even as a Force ghost. He failed, despite spending the last nine years of his life being taught by Qui-Gon. In that regard, Reva had accomplished more without anyone's help.
Yeah Reva's arc was originally going to be very different according to those leaks. She was going to be a true believer at the beginning, who didn't know who Darth Vader really was. In an inversion of what happened in the show, Obi-Wan was going to be the one to tell her that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker. Then she would sacrifice herself to let Obi-Wan escape and get a shot at Vader, which would of course lead to her death. I think I would have liked that better, although I don't have much problem with how the story eventually turned out.
Learning that the second worst part of Obi-Wan almost got the death the character deserved is probably the most depressing Star Wars thing I've heard in awhile. Luckily I doubt we'll be getting a Season 2 of Obi-Wan, so if she shows back up it will probably be in one of Filoni's shitty post TCW cartoons. She'd fit right in with The Bad Batch, it even has a useless little girl that ruins everything, just like in Obi-Wan.
(I know Bad Batch takes place years before Obi-Wan so the timeline wouldn't fit, its just the show that seems closest in tone and overall "quality" to Obi-Wan).
(I know Bad Batch takes place years before Obi-Wan so the timeline wouldn't fit, its just the show that seems closest in tone and overall "quality" to Obi-Wan).
Same. And would enjoy such a story.
You're equating contrition with redemption there, and they aren't remotely synonymous.
Sure. So, when she asked Obi-Wan if she'd become "just like" Vader, instead of saying "of course not; you must now find your own path," maybe he should have specified "no, but you've only just begun on a journey of redemption, and the path ahead will not be easy."
- realized they just cast only the second Black-looking Black actress in the franchise's history, remembered how many people complained that Thandiwe Newton's character died after just one or two scenes, and realized that maybe having the first major Black female character be a Space Nazi who dies after battling a noble white dude wouldn't be the best look, and would probably inspire more critical tweets from John Boyega?
The problem isn't that the creators' intent in that particular scene is unclear. The problem is that, up to that point, the character's journey was spectacularly incoherent:
So, you'll forgive me if I don't exactly trust said creators to realize that Reva will have to do more than just not kill Luke and cry a bit to fully and completely redeem herself. The people who wrote this show and/or guided the major story developments doesn't seem to have much skill for storytelling at all. Maybe the writers are bad writers, or maybe Kennedy yanked them around and made artistically unreasonable demands on a limited time frame. Either way, the finished product sucks.
Someone thinks she is fully redeemed?
Because I don't see that at all. Just that she had a choice to turn away from evil and did so. And probably has less evil to atone for than Darth Vader.
Why does Reva have to be a part of Cal Kestis' story?
Lucasfilm can easily create a solo project for her character.The important thing is that Reva turned away from evil, instead of continuing to embrace it. And the same went for Anakin, thirteen years later. It was about him turning away from evil . . . rejecting it. For me, it's not about how many evil deeds he had to atone for.
I generally agree but I am always mildly amused by the lines in the sand that are drawn for atonement.
Why does Reva have to be a part of Cal Kestis' story?
I am considering her character's negative public reaction. To ease her back to a point where more of the fanbase would accept her getting her own solo project. Like Ahsoka, Reva's going to need a little bit more of a character arc to bring her to a point where she's more generally accepted. After that, a Reva show would be easily accepted for a wider audience.
I would not mind them working together, but Cal has gotten the attention of Vader, which Reva would probably want to avoid, at least for a time. But, personally, I think Reva's story is very much an interesting one, a Force user who cannot be trained in the ways of the Jedi, and is rejecting the Dark Side. I think she could be an interesting protagonist.
The horrible behavior of vocal bigots is not a "negative public reaction."
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