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NuTrek sequels - 24th century villains?

The gorn! The CGI is at the stage where it could work.

anything but Klingons or the bloody borg!

The gorn! The CGI is at the stage where it could work.

anything but Klingons or the bloody borg!

I agree.

Or the Andorians (tho I never saw Enterprise).

NO TNG villians please, what an utter lack of imagination that would be. They wrote themselves out of the prequel box for a reason - let's think of something new.

I sure hope some of these ideas are just fans joking around otherwise they suck. Talk about fanwanking to the Nth Degree.

Here's an idea why not use a race that is TOS appropriate and develop an interesting fresh story around them. Please no Borg, no Cardassians, no Dominion, no Conspiracy aliens, no Xindi, no Betazoids, no Nausicaans, no Breen etc.

Yes-I agree. Klingons are so iconic----but they should probably move on.

I would love to see an updated Gorn. Love it! Or some other TOS alien that was loosely explored and poorly concieved on screen due to budget and F/X limitatations. How about the Horta? Those little plant/puppet/wiggly dudes? Andorians--sure. The "Giants" from that season one ep. where the shuttle is broke and Spoke wants to leave without burying people.

But, in the end, I would suggest they couple one of these old aliens with an entirely new one. Boldly go----strange new worlds etc.
 
The Gorn would potentially be interesting as aggressor as the Federation might be percieved as weak by surrounding empires (and the Klingons and Romulans are too buys beating the stuffing out fo each other).

Or possibly the Enigmatic Tholians, who tended to be capricious territory takers...and let's face it. the Tholains on the big screen would look cool :) :drool:

Yes, absolutely. I forgot to mention the Tholians. Are they a crystalline-based species, or they just wear some kind of armor? There was mention of the Tholians on DS9 (Tholian silk, Tholian ambassador), but they haven't made any appearance since TOS.
 
The Gorn would potentially be interesting as aggressor as the Federation might be percieved as weak by surrounding empires (and the Klingons and Romulans are too buys beating the stuffing out fo each other).

Or possibly the Enigmatic Tholians, who tended to be capricious territory takers...and let's face it. the Tholains on the big screen would look cool :) :drool:

Yes, absolutely. I forgot to mention the Tholians. Are they a crystalline-based species, or they just wear some kind of armor? There was mention of the Tholians on DS9 (Tholian silk, Tholian ambassador), but they haven't made any appearance since TOS.
The Tholians appeared in ENT's "Future Tense" and "In a Mirror, Darkly Part I". In the former we only see their ships. In the latter we see one of them and it is clear that it isn't armor it is like a crystalline exoskeleton.
 
I sure hope some of these ideas are just fans joking around otherwise they suck. Talk about fanwanking to the Nth Degree.

So instead of just being negative, let's hear your idea(s).
Coming up with theoretical storylines has been one aspect of internet fandom that has never been my thing. I'm not a screen writer and I don't pretend to be one so I have never engaged in that sort of thing and don't intend to. I prefer to let the writers write and then as a viewer decide whether I liked what they came up with or not.

I'm not saying your argument is not valid, but with all due respect, one's criticism is only good if he/she provides ideas for improvements. For example, if an employer was writing a performance evaluation, he/she couldn't just say, "Employee X is really bad and he sucks." Instead, it's more constructive to say, "Employee X needs to work harder, be on time, and follow instructions." In other words, be specific.

You mentioned the villains should be TOS-related. By that, I assume you were referring to all TOS aliens (Andorians, Gorn, Orions), which posters already made references to in this thread. It's also been established that most people wouldn't prefer the Borg, Klingons, or Romulans.
 
The Gorn would potentially be interesting as aggressor as the Federation might be percieved as weak by surrounding empires (and the Klingons and Romulans are too buys beating the stuffing out fo each other).

Or possibly the Enigmatic Tholians, who tended to be capricious territory takers...and let's face it. the Tholains on the big screen would look cool :) :drool:

Yes, absolutely. I forgot to mention the Tholians. Are they a crystalline-based species, or they just wear some kind of armor? There was mention of the Tholians on DS9 (Tholian silk, Tholian ambassador), but they haven't made any appearance since TOS.
The Tholians appeared in ENT's "Future Tense" and "In a Mirror, Darkly Part I". In the former we only see their ships. In the latter we see one of them and it is clear that it isn't armor it is like a crystalline exoskeleton.

Thanks. I googled the image. I stopped watching ENT after Season 1, so I didn't see that episode. It appears they made the Tholians arachnid in appearance (with eight limbs all together). I suppose it makes sense, giving reference to the Tholian "web" that their ships are known to produce.
 
The gorn! The CGI is at the stage where it could work.

anything but Klingons or the bloody borg!

I have also wondered if the Gorn would make effective villians for the next film. I think our view of them would change an awful lot frankly. The Gorn we saw in "Arena" was awkward and somewhat laughable. I think it would be great to play on people's instinctual fear of reptiles and bring the Gorn into the picture.
 
Admiral Pike comes aboard the Enterprise with his former first officer and protégé, who we know as Number One from 'The Cage.' She is a Betazoid

Lost me right there..

Because? She was never given a human-centric name or had her species mentioned, so there's nothing precluding it.

I've got no problem with accepting criticism, and it helps you improve on your ideas. But it would be nice if it included some details instead of just saying "that sucks" or "lost me right there."
 
Please, Betazoids are crap on a stick. Lets not make my most favourite first officer in the whole of Trek one.
 
Please, Betazoids are crap on a stick. Lets not make my most favourite first officer in the whole of Trek one.

Constructive, thanks. You and startrekwatcher should really start your own review show and share your wealth of in-depth criticism.
 
Hey that's fine. I dig most of what you post generally, but suggesting Number One be a Betazoid invokes a purely gutteral objection in me - it's not something I can even pretend to be creative about.
 
I must agree betazoids are not that interesting, as I feel the issue ofa Full blown race of human teeps was not handled well by TNG.

now what might be interesting is that if we get number one, perhaps one of those very rare human teeps that pop up for whatever reason, without any one around to help with the breaking out and trying to deal with it on thier own
 
Please, Betazoids are crap on a stick. Lets not make my most favourite first officer in the whole of Trek one.

Constructive, thanks. You and startrekwatcher should really start your own review show and share your wealth of in-depth criticism.
I'm sorry that I didn't fall all over your Betazoid story idea but you shouldn't take it personally. As far as sharing my criticism, I think I go out of my way to provide detailed reasons as to what I do and do not like about any television episode or films that I choose to comment about on this board.

I don't think I've ever just given a score or a one-liner. As for your story I really didn't have much to specifically criticize because the overall idea just didn't work for me so there really wasn't anything beyond that to comment on.
 
now what might be interesting is that if we get number one, perhaps one of those very rare human teeps that pop up for whatever reason, without any one around to help with the breaking out and trying to deal with it on thier own

Eh, human telepathy has already been dealt with very well by Babylon 5. I wouldn't be that interested in it if Trek did it unless they find a completely new approach.

Like, for example, having human telepathy be the result of cybernetics.

EDIT: Oops, I keep forgetting I'm not in the more general "what do you want to see in Trek" thread. Two paragraphs of this post will be transplanted to that thread.
 
Hey that's fine. I dig most of what you post generally, but suggesting Number One be a Betazoid invokes a purely gutteral objection in me - it's not something I can even pretend to be creative about.


Oh, but she turned out to be Betazoid in the end anyway.
 
... there's no reason why they or the Cardassians, Breen or even Q can't appear in the next or subsequent movies.
Well, there is one: It'd be rather unoriginal. ;)

Not really. The majority of people who will be watching the film will not know of them, and they have never featured in a Trek film before. It's a chance to have a different twist on them which would make it original.
 
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