nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth!

[Guartho]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I thought it was Decker's mom that was a New Human slut.

 

[miraclefan]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I have decided that, of my initial list, the worse offense is the character assassination of James Kirk's mom compared to Roddenberry's vision for her.

Roddenberry wanted her to have no last name and be a New Human who had many sexual partners, the first of which was named only James. It was for this love instructor that she named a son she happened to have with a particularly good lay named Kirk.

Now Abrams and company have ruined the character, turning her into a Starfleet officer and the loving wife of her husband, George Kirk. They went even further as to give her a last name, which no good New Human would even have -- it hinders the group identity.

Kirk's mom should be as Roddenberry envisioned: New Age and easy.

Whaaat?

 

[miraclefan]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I thought it was Decker's mom that was a New Human slut.

I guess there are no S.T.D.'s in Roddenberry's ''utopia'' then?

 

[Guartho]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Wouldn't be Utopia if there were!

 

[miraclefan]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Wouldn't be Utopia if there were!

So I guess in this ''utopia'' the women (men?) only get prego when they want too? so no more ''unexpected'' surprises?

 

[Guartho]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Exactly. That also means there are no abortions in Utopia. Everyone is happy.

 

[SonicRanger]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Exactly. That also means there are no abortions in Utopia. Everyone is happy.

The implant in "primitive" Starfleeters' heads helps with that too.

 

[miraclefan]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Exactly. That also means there are no abortions in Utopia. Everyone is happy.

The implant in "primitive" Starfleeters' heads helps with that too.

THAT sound's about RIGHT!

 

[JewelsNeeJulian]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I'm trying to see how this was a bad thing actually...

 

[miraclefan]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I'm trying to see how this was a bad thing actually...

What was?

 

[JewelsNeeJulian]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

that Gene's Vision of the New Humans was ignored

 

[SonicRanger]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

that Gene's Vision of the New Humans was ignored

But it was part of the official movie tie-in book!

 

[JewelsNeeJulian]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I remember reading it and thought it a bit odd...tho with Transhumanist fiction on the rise these days, I could call it visionary. But still, I think I prefer the staple of the nuclear family as it's more relatable.

 

[miraclefan]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I remember reading it and thought it a bit odd...tho with Transhumanist fiction on the rise these days, I could call it visionary. But still, I think I prefer the staple of the nuclear family as it's more relatable.

Agreed!

 

[Bobatiel]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I...about 90% of Gene Roddenberry's ideas were utter crap anyway and should be ignored...

I hope the double belly button falls within the other 10%.

 

[miraclefan]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I hope the double belly button falls within the other 10%.

QUE?!?

 

[Greg Cox]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I hope the double belly button falls within the other 10%.

QUE?!?

See the original GENESIS 2 pilot. Mariette Hartley has two belly buttons.

 

[royalfan5]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

The best part of the novelization was the footnote addressing the Spock/Kirk hot gay sex rumors rampant in the Starfleet and the Federation.

 

[FalTorPan]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Roddenberry shared his vision of Earth and humanity, and JJ and crew ignored everything! The word of Roddenberry was dismissed!

What was ignored?

...

Where was this in the new film?

Where was this in TNG, beyond only the most vague references?

 

[JewelsNeeJulian]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I saw plenty of his Of Roddenbury's Vision in Early TNG when he had most of his creative control.

I was not impressed.

I'll settle for J.J.'s Thank you very much