nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth!

[SonicRanger]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Didn't anyone also notice that, in TMP, the USS Columbia is stated to be NCC-621, not NCC-0621 and the USS Revere was NCC-0595?

Why do they hate teh canon!?!

 

[Cyke101]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I wonder if this is some veiled attempt to override Paramount in order to make Countdown canon. I wouldn't have suspected until the Borg popped up once again.

And it rather seems primitive to me that GR would bash Kirk's academy class as having less "intellectual agility." For humans as it is right now, it's not the size of the brain that counts, it's the teaching techniques combined with information that matter.

 

[Jeri]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

This thread is hilarious; so glad I was done eating my cereal.

 

[stonester1]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Oh, I get it...

 

[Ovation]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

This thread is hilarious; so glad I was done eating my cereal.

I've ruined more than one keyboard thanks to this BBS over the years.

 

[Jeri]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

^ Yeah, we put in a supply of canned air long ago.

 

[kdalton_69]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I vaguely remember some of that. Does it come from the TMP novelization? In any case, it's not canon. Even the word of the "Great Bird of the Galaxy" himself, if not put on screen, is NOT canon.

It is the official movie tie-in by GR. TMP was written by GR, and the tie-in book was written by GR. If the film and tie-in material were created by the same person, then it should be official. What is the point of writing it if it wasn't official? What is the point of reading it if it wasn't official? What is the point of selling it? Isn't it dishonest to sell it and treat it as noncanon?

Except that nothing that doesn't appear on screen is considered canon by anyone. I don't care if Gene Roddenberry - who BTW was just another flawed human paying lip service to progressive eutopian claptrap in most of what you just described - opened a vein and wrote it with his own blood.

It's. still. not. canon.

 

[miniglik]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

This thread is hilarious; so glad I was done eating my cereal.

Me too!

This is actually happening!!

 

[SonicRanger]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Me too!

This is actually happening!!

Finally someone who realizes this is reality we are talking about!

 

[Guartho]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Ok Sonic.. you got me.

Oh, and the planet of living machines... I always wanted it to be Cybertron.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Ok Sonic.. you got me.

Oh, and the planet of living machines... I always wanted it to be Cybertron.

Yeah and Megatron, Galvatron, or what ever the hell he was calling himself that week should have been the one to rebuild V'ger.

 

[Guartho]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I always thought of it as the Autobots trying to do a good thing and not thinking it through.

 

[Cky]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

It's weird... you don't seem to be complaining about JJ's Trek, but more about TMP. Don't mean to burst your bubble but you're about 30 years too late on that note.

The 'JJ Trek' is still Trek, do you honestly think they would rather go with a dead old coot's vision of the future, or one that's 30 years after that he said and more realistic?

Besides, Gene said before that anything that isn't shown on screen is not canon. That's not come from somebody else, but it's come from the same person who you say would hate this movie. Besides, didn't you notice how directors and studios 30 years ago were pushing him out? They all knew he was just a coot then and tried to save Star Trek with the movies.

 

[Balrog]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Teh Canon!

LOL!

 

[superdeluxe]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Didn't most of trek after the first season of TNG move away from roddenberry's vision?

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Personally if the OP is right about this stuff I have to wonder what Roddenberry was smoking that day.

Whatever it was, I want some.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

THE CANON!

(btw, for the OP: if you are serious, go back and read up on your history of what happened before the making of TMP. Anything that Roddenberry wrote and submitted was given a "WTF is this crap?!?!" look by Eisner and Paramount and given back to be written into something usable. Roddenberry also wanted Spock to be the one who assassinated JFK in a script idea, so I put very little credence into anything the man may have written without competent writers around him.)

 

[fresh]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Sometimes I agree with Bree Lindsay's assessment of Gene. I know, stone me.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Ok Sonic.. you got me.

Oh, and the planet of living machines... I always wanted it to be Cybertron.

Yeah and Megatron, Galvatron, or what ever the hell he was calling himself that week should have been the one to rebuild V'ger.

He does in my own private canon.

 

[CoveTom]

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I realize this thread is not serious, but can I just add that about 90% of Gene Roddenberry's ideas were utter crap anyway and should be ignored by anyone involved in Trek? Thank you.