Well, there probably won't be another series for awhile. Eventually they'll do a reboot. Every show will get a reboot eventually.
Now what for the franchise?
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Oh geez, apologies. I was quoting Mr Awe as saying things but it was actually Noname Given I was directing my responses to. But anyway, yeah, what TheWormhole said.
Listen to that wormhole.
And another thing. Comparing Caprica to SGA isn't that easy, because even with its worst numbers -- I think early season four, before a bounce back to reasonable form -- Atlantis was pulling in more viewers. Plus it's a hell of a lot less serialized.
Listen to that wormhole.
And another thing. Comparing Caprica to SGA isn't that easy, because even with its worst numbers -- I think early season four, before a bounce back to reasonable form -- Atlantis was pulling in more viewers. Plus it's a hell of a lot less serialized.
Stargate has been going downhill ever since RDA/Greenburg (Gekko) left the franchise. Why not "retire" the current writers and producers and give SGU another shot under new management? Despite the shitty ratings, the show could always be renewed for a 10-episode third season with the possibility to add ten more in case things pick up.
I still think the franchise is very much alive, but not with the current group of people at the helm. I mean, they even managed to create a big divide in the Stargate fandom by directly insulting fans and corrupting GateWorld Forums. I don't go to GW in ages due to the blatant censorship and pro-TPTB stance. If they think this sort of thing helps SGU, think again.
I still think the franchise is very much alive, but not with the current group of people at the helm. I mean, they even managed to create a big divide in the Stargate fandom by directly insulting fans and corrupting GateWorld Forums. I don't go to GW in ages due to the blatant censorship and pro-TPTB stance. If they think this sort of thing helps SGU, think again.
I think thats what could possibly happen.
Not based on what this guy (who actually works at SyFy) is saying:
What he's probably referring to are the C+3 numbers.
TV by the Numbers said:
Since Pathogen got .974 million Live+ Same Day, it got way lower than that for C+3 and that means SyFy's losing money on the show. If it keeps up over a few more episodes (which looks likely considering that the next one is a Scott based episode), then SyFy will drop the axe and air the rest of the season since they already paid for it.
I suppose this is also the end of this forum.
I suppose this is also the end of this forum.
Uh Oh, maybe.... they kept the LOST forum open for a while though, but I just noticed its closed now.
It is sad though, I really wanted to learn what the Destiny's true mission was, I hope we get to find out by the end of season 2! It really sucks, I feel bad for the big name actors.
Stargate needs to be turned over to a whole new creative team who has carte blanche to reboot the frak out of it. Either that, or just let it die. But on the off chance there's something to salvage...
Stargate was at its best in the early years of SG-1, when it was not just a knock-off but also a "real life version of Star Trek" with the Air Force standing in for Starfleet. That's a good basis to build out from.
I wouldn't force it to be too terribly real-life-ish, because that would end up getting it mired in tiresome Earth politics, but I'd like to see more DS9 style serialization and an attempt to deal more concretely and thoroughly with some of the interesting notions that SG-1 raised, for example, whether or not the Goa'uld are truly "insane" from an overdose of memories; how the Tok'ra would deal with increasing population pressures if they got a queen who started producing a lot of offspring, and what that would mean for their alliance with the Tau'ri and Jaffa; and a return to the Ri'tu and their "final solution" to the Goa'uld problem.
I guess they envied its critical acclaim. There's no example of a successful space opera series on TV to emulate, so what formula would work? Is there one?
Stargate needs its own identity. Even if it were turned over to RDM, I would not want to see Stargate turned into BSG. Right now the identity is "substandard knock-off of Star Trek" which has lately morphed into "substandard knock-off of BSG." I think the show can do better than that.
Stargate was at its best in the early years of SG-1, when it was not just a knock-off but also a "real life version of Star Trek" with the Air Force standing in for Starfleet. That's a good basis to build out from.
I wouldn't force it to be too terribly real-life-ish, because that would end up getting it mired in tiresome Earth politics, but I'd like to see more DS9 style serialization and an attempt to deal more concretely and thoroughly with some of the interesting notions that SG-1 raised, for example, whether or not the Goa'uld are truly "insane" from an overdose of memories; how the Tok'ra would deal with increasing population pressures if they got a queen who started producing a lot of offspring, and what that would mean for their alliance with the Tau'ri and Jaffa; and a return to the Ri'tu and their "final solution" to the Goa'uld problem.
I cared. But they've floundered around badly with the story instead of focusing relentlessly on it like they should have. You don't need a war to have a gripping, exciting story, but I guess it does take extra talent and work to do a story with the excitement of war without all the battles and spacecraft zooming around. A war story is easier to pull off.
I guess they envied its critical acclaim. There's no example of a successful space opera series on TV to emulate, so what formula would work? Is there one?
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I said they were written as series finales. Whether they actually functioned as finales is a completely different discussion as we'll all have different opinions on what purpose a finale should serve (as we've seen with LOST & BSG both getting their finales torn to shreds for not finishing the show properly this year). And as it stands Unending is the stargate SG1 TV finale (even if I didn't include it on my list). I'm not really going to spend the time hunting around for quotes, but rather just write what is commonly known.
What must be remembered is that for a while there Stargate SG-1 was a show which was almost finished every year, the finales were written as if they're the last episode.
Full Circle is named and the story is deliberately structured to display that the show has gone "full circle". A return to Abydos and to finish with the show roughly in the same point it begun.
Lost City was originally meant to be the DVD finale for the show but eventually become the Series 7 finale. It also serves its purpose as a set-up for Atlantis.
DVD Commentary for Avalon has a discussion where they wrote Avalon as a pilot and the show was going to be called "Stargate Command" and it being a new show. All the storylines were wrapped up in Threads/Reckoning and Moebius was a fun adventure (like the 2nd DVD movie) to get a ZPM for Atlantis.
Ark of Truth was written as the wrap-up to the Ori storyline. It's the finale like 'Threads/Reckoning' is the finale. Wraps up all the major plot points.
You're getting the wrong poster, I never said anything along those lines about BSG and SyFy, or mentioned anything about syndication. Shoot, I've never even watched Caprica!
Mr Awe
Really? Because they only get money if Stargate stuff gets made, which it won't once Universe is rightfully canceled.
Hopefully what happens is a break with every writer on Stragate being fired and new people join for SG-1: TNG in a decade.
Also SG1 had several decent / good series finales, they just weren't series finales.
Atlantis ended perfectly fine, the fact the plan was to return the city the very next episode is completely lame and illogical.
They can just make Universe a bad dream of Jack's or soemthnig.
They'll still make money on DVDs and syndication, the same way Paramount milked Star Trek.
Saquist
Commodore
I know what you mean but almost everything has been done before and as humans we have a limited range of entertainment interest. I think it's about timing and common sense.
that's a very good question. As claimed as it was it's still one of the steeper declines on the channel...
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