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That's ridiculous. Why does every character in Star Trek have to eventually become a Captain or an Admiral once they get older? Don't get me wrong, I like Ezri as much as the next guy, but come on.
I don't care how much she matures in the book, I don't believe she could ever convincingly be a captain. Some people just don't have it in them, yet in Star Trek, the rule seems to be that once a major character gets old enough, they'll become a captain.
Didn't they say in a 'future' episode of Voyager that Geordi is a captain too? That's nuts. He's a tech guy for life, he could never be a captain. I think it's equally absurd for McCoy to be an Admiral eventually too. The highest rank he should ever have (as a doctor) is Surgeon General or whatever the most prestigious medical rank might be.
Yeah, everyone gets to be a starship captain some day.
But only James T. Kirk gets promoted directly from cadet to captain the biggest, baddest starship in history.
The Aventine is a good looking model, though.
But only James T. Kirk gets promoted directly from cadet to captain the biggest, baddest starship in history.
The Aventine is a good looking model, though.
You may be assuming that in Starfleet that the rank of captain automatically means the post of ship's captain as well.
Specifically referring to the case of McCoy, he probably is the equivalent of a Surgeon General, but considering the fact that the majority of the ranks (apart from ENT's MACOs and General West from ST VI: TUC) are based on Naval Ranks, he would be using the rank of Admiral for his level of medical 'command'/responsibility. In Deep Space 9 (forgotten the episode), there's a Security Admiral, so I'm guessing that it's not just command track personnel that end up at captain or above ranks.
I can't comment on LaForge, since I haven't seen that episode of Voyager, or can't remember it.
I agree with that in principal, but I think both McCoy and Geordi both showed qualities that went beyond their area of expertise. Both characters seemed to possess strong leadership qualities, and I could absolutely see them captaining a starship.
I agree, much as how Scotty was Captain of engineering. However, even with his command experience, he never commanded his own ship.
That's a beautiful ship.
..."Captain Ezri Dax"? I don't think I like that.
The only way I can even remotely "consider" Ezri a potential captain, is taking in account her symbiote holding several life-experiences..
FWIW, the Surgeon General of the US Navy is a three-star Admiral.
I could be wrong, but a doctor in the Navy doesn't need to captain a ship in order to eventually attain admiralty, does he?
If he does indeed, I'm so sure that goody-two-shoes Starfleet has plenty of medical ships to spare anyway.
No joke. Agreed big-time. Crusher captaining the Pasteur was silly too. Sure it's a medical ship, but that doesn't mean it's crewed entirely by doctors. I can't see a U.S. Navy doctor, after a lifetime of practicing medicine, take the reins of a naval ship. Then we have Harry Kim in the Voyager finale, but that one I can accept because he seemed the career officer type.
Geordi definitely had people command skills, in that he ran an engineering team. I could see him running some special research project after his stint on starships. But he didn't seem like the type to talk down an aggressive Romulan fleet, for example. He had a hard enough time trying to talk to women.
If nothing else I can see Geordi being captain of a Starfleet Corps of Engineers ship.
Well, it may not be "officially canon" (by decree of JJ Abrams) but the ST'09 prequel comic book has Geordi having left Starfleet entirely, developing new ships on a "freelance" basis (something along the lines of a 24th-century Burt Rutan).
Supposely, the "Jellyfish" that Nimoy-Spock flies is a Geordi design.
Not that I'm aware of. I think the USN is content to let MDs just be MDs. As a side-note, though, there is a statute that requires commanding officers of aircraft carriers be qualified aviators.
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Agreed. People can and do change careers, especially if they eventually reach a point in their life that they do want a change. LaForge started off in the command division and then went to engineering, but it was always very plausible that he would go back to command if he wanted more out of life. And the situation with Ezri Dax was explained in the novels that she wound up with the Aventine under some very unfortunate circumstances, but proved herself worthy to be its permanant captain in a way not too unlike Picard did on the Stargazer (having a 300-year old combat-hardened symbiont did kind of help Ezri a little, though).
But as far as the Aventine herself, it kind of continues the idea that Starfleet is moving farther and farther away from the traditional saucer section designs and more towards single-hulled configurations, IMO...
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